> Has anyone one had the new stainless steel frame put in there car? PDC is in the process of making a SS frame for my car. I realize that to keep my car as a reliable daily driver, I'm going to have to do something about the frame. At the very least I would have to strip the old epoxy and paint it before any more of it flakes off. Then I am concerned about possible damage that my car may still have from a front end collision that it was apparently in before I owned it. Then I have broken tow hooks, and the last straw was having the master cylinder leak brake fluid around the fuel tank loosening the epoxy and making a mess. Sound familiar Hank? I can't say this is fact or merely opinion, but I hear that part of the reason why the epoxy tends to crack on these frames so bad is because the frames are flimsy. With continued use, more and more of the epoxy cracks allowing rust to set in. Since I'm planning on eventually doing an engine & tranny swap, adding more horsepower to the OEM frame is something that I'm not excited about. On the other hand, I've had another list member tell me that a stainless frame would be a really dangerous thing to do because it would rust anyway and be too strong in an accident. I won't say who he is, but if he wants to speak up he can. (I will say that this guy REALLY knows his stainless.) I'm not too worried about the stainless rusting. I thought before that I might paint the new stainless frame anyway, but considering that PDC has something like 80K miles on their prototype frame with no rust tells me that paint will probably just add unnecessary weight. As for being too strong in an accident, PDC claims that the crumple zones in the front are properly designed to absorb energy just as well or better than the OEM frame. Hopefully no one will ever have to find this out the hard way. And the rear is substantially stronger than OEM in a collision. This is mostly to do with supporting more horsepower in the engine compartment. The intent was to design it to adequately handle a 300hp engine. Quite frankly, more strength and less crumple ability in a frame doesn't scare me. My other main vehicle is a 3/4 ton chassis GMC truck. Against the typical car on the road, that truck isn't going to do much crumpling. So why should I compromise with my DeLorean? You could argue that the DeLorean has less mass so that more energy will be transferred to the occupants, but I figure that most of that is something that the car that hits me is going to have to deal with. Now I might go to a 5 point seatbelt someday. Sure, a stainless frame is a lot of money. It's costing me around $9K which includes the new trailing arms that don't use trailing arm bolts. That little upgrade was another factor in making me go totally stainless. After removing bent bolts from two cars, I certainly wasn't excited about putting the same kind of bolt back on. (May God richly bless Toby! That man may be responsible for saving some lives already.) I don't feel that I am wasting any money on this car. DeLoreans aren't taking any more depreciation. And if I were ever to sell this car, I would advertise it with a base price and then add $9K for the stainless frame. I don't think anyone could argue with that. Besides, how much does it cost for a new Porsche or BMW or Mercedes roadster? The DeLorean is a lot more bang for the buck and also less money even if in addition to the stainless frame you spend another $20K for that Cadillac Northstar V8 conversion. Even with all that invested it is still a better value AND less money. I don't know anyone else besides Bryan Pearce who has one of these frames. I get the feeling that there are very few if any to date. It is a lot of money, and it has taken a while for people to start to feel comfortable with it. I don't think that anyone will mind my saying that PDC is making a batch for one of the vendors along with the one for me. I consider this an endorsement that is hard to ignore. Coolness, Walt Tampa, FL