Can anyone say what the exact measurements of the DIN opening on the Houston bracket are? There is a chance that Houston made theirs according to the DIN standard and it is a few various radio manufactures who are at fault for making their radios too large. For example, my Alpine came with an outer sleeve that I didn't use. So which part of the radio fits the DIN standard -- the radio itself or the optional outer sleeve? If I hear that the Houston DIN opening is indeed too small -- that coupled with the fact that they don't even paint it would make me not want to bother with buying one. Perhaps they will get busy and at least start painting them. BTW, what happened to the parts-for-sale area of the Mid-Atlantic DMC site? I can understand them not wanting to sell brackets to compete with Houston, but what happened to all the other cool stuff like the stainless steel braded brake lines & such?