One of the first jobs my son had with the Target corp. was a buyer for the automotive lines the Target stores carry. He visited the Champion corporation and they had an area with examples of all the filters they produce. Fram was the only company not represented there. Simply because Champion produces them doesn't mean they're all the same. They're manufactured to various specifications that are dictated by the companies who order them. The differences include items like those Marc has mentioned: different by pass specs, the degree of filtration in the paper used and so on. Saying they are made by Champion really has no bearing on the performance aspects of the filters. Bruce Benson > And, many Internet sites dealing with the topic of oil > filters claim the Bosch filters that are "made in USA" > are a "champion" made filter that is labeled Bosch > (not the same as the German made counter part). The > implication here is that a "Made in USA" Bosch filter > is lower quality than one would expect. To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/