dmcnews-digest Saturday, March 7 1998 Volume 03 : Number 337
In this issue:
DML: FutureFest '98
DML: "Poser" car (was: Delorean UK)
DML: Delorean- The "poser" car?
re: DML: Vents (was Squeak ??)
Re: DML: Need clutch and pressure plate
DML: FS: '81 5-speed (35.8K). Northern CA
DML: More on Wedding Singer
Re: DML: FutureFest '98
RE: DML: Need clutch and pressure plate
DML: Cooling System
DML: Where can I get a DMC??????????
DML: Delorean- The "poser" car?]
DML: Clutch & Pressure Plate
DML: Car for sale !
Re: DML: Where can I get a DMC??????????
Re: DML: Cooling System
Re: DML: The DeLorean, The D-2, and The Bug
DML: Re: Delorean UK)
DML: Anybody in Norway or Sweden that own's a DeLorean??
DML: Fwd: Re: Stainless
Re: DML: Delorean- The "poser" car?]
Re: DML: More on Wedding Singer
DML: ALUMINUM V/S RUBBER
DML: Parking Brake Update
DML: Alternator questions..
DML: DeLorean's accountants ordered to pay millions
Re: DML: Delorean- The "poser" car?]
DML: Deserving Buyers
Re: DML: Alternator questions..
DML: Finishes
Re: DML: Alternator questions..
DML: Alabama Meeting
Re: DML: Alternator questions..
DML: Craig Radio Service Manual Wanted
DML: RE: BTTF
Re: DML: Alternator questions..
Re: DML: Finishes
DML: Dry Balls
DML: Chick Magnet
Re: DML: Alternator questions..
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Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 09:48:03 -0600
From: BTTF@xxxxxxxxxxxxx (time@xxxxxxxxxxxxx)
Subject: DML: FutureFest '98
Calling all "Backies" --
"FutureFest" will be a three-day celebration of the Back to the Future
Trilogy, tentatively set to take place on Labor Day weekend (September
5-7,
1998) in conjunction with the DeLorean Expo '98.
Future fans from around the world may get the opportunity to gather at the
birthplace of the Back to the Future saga, world-famous Universal Studios
Hollywood. In addition to meeting and mingling with the stars and
creative
personnel behind the adventures of Marty McFly & Doc Emmett L. Brown, a
series of events and attractions are planned for the weekend.=20
For further information on this proposed event, please visit the
FutureFest
website at "http://www.bttf.com/futurefest/" and send email to Universal
Studios in support of the event (link provided on the page). Hope to see
you in September!
To Be Continued...
Stephen M. Clark, Fan Club Representative
Back to the Future...The Fan Club
P.O. Box 880
Athens, AL 35612-0880 U.S.A.
Phone/Fax: (205) 230-6288
E-mail: time@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Web Site: http://www.bttf.com/
_________________________________________________________________________
"FutureFest '98" -- Hill Valley's first BTTF Convention is coming!
http://www.bttf.com/futurefest/
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Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 11:30:34 -0500
From: Marc A Levy <malevy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: "Poser" car (was: Delorean UK)
Hmm.. Maybe I am butt-ugly, but I find the exact opposite to be true.
Girls are either not interested in the car, or avoid looking at it
because they don't want to feed my ego. (The don't want me to be a
successful "Poser" i guess!)
The gas station guys, however, always ask a million questions.
SoundKillr wrote:
>
> I think she is worried because she knows....girls LOVE the Delorean. They
> are
> gonna be all over the car and she knows this....Hmmm. Tell her not to
> worry...
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Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 09:45:34 -0800
From: Dave Price <davep@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Delorean- The "poser" car?
Sorry, I couldn't hold back any longer on this one...
First off, "Poser" by definition (yes, this slang actually means what it
says) is: "acting (or posing) like someone you're not".. So, the reason
that some people think this is a poser car is because it looks like an
expensive exotic itallian sports car, but it's really just a regular car
in
a fancy package.
So, if you got the car because you wanted a "exotic status simbol" car,
but
didn't have the cash to back it up, you're a poser.. If you got it
because
of it's uniqueness, beauty, etc, etc.. (which I can safely say is about
99%
of all Delorean owners) then you ain't a poser.
- -- If you are offended by stereotypes and gender-bashing please skip the
rest --
About the "chick magnet" thread.. Now I don't like to generalize, but
most
women can sniff out a bargain. Materialistic women will see right past
your 16-year-old sub-$20K car. If you're looking to get "chicks", buy a
BMW. However, even women that don't care about money still won't like
your D. Women like pretty cars with contours and colors. This car is
cold,
angular, void of color and very unappealing to "chicks". It looks more
like a science project than a nice candy-coated automobile. Hope I didn't
offend too many people, I just call 'em as I see 'em.
Happy motoring!
Dave
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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 98 12:10:05 -0500
From: "Rob Corkum" <rob.corkum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: re: DML: Vents (was Squeak ??)
>> another question? Do the air vents behind the side windows actually
work?
>> If so is there any way to adjust flow?
>
> If your referring to the Qtr Panel louvre, then they are just cosmetic.
> Nothing but solid fiberglass underneath.
Not in my car. (June 1981) There is a round hole in the fiberglass
underneath in the middle of each vent. I know this from when I removed
each inside panel where the rear speakers are in the car. I assumed that
this was to not make the inside of the car too air-tight so that you can
actually get fresh air into the car, via the defrost or front vents. I
didn't think too much about it at the time.
//Rob//
rob.corkum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
vin 1723, DOA, DMCC
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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:40:01 -0700
From: raddad@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: DML: Need clutch and pressure plate
>Ron wrote:
>>> Is the Houston supplier the best place to purchase the clutch and pressure
>>> plate or does someone know the correct numbers to buy from a supply house
>>> at much more reasonable prices.
>
>Bill Marcussen responded:
>>IMHO, purchasing your parts from one of the stocking distributors is
>>_THE WAY TO GO_! I have found parts prices to be reasonable and they
>>fit and function correctly.
>
>James chimes in:
>
>In addition to knwoing you'll be getting the correct part, the added
>benefit of getting the technical support after the sale from someone who
>is knowledgeable about the DeLorean is worth a great deal, IMO.
>
>James
And Rad Dad says:
Further, these suppliers are constantly working on improved parts. Take,
for example, the two Rob Grady ads in this month's DeLorean World. His 3
core brass radiator is superb - I have one on my turbo'd car and I love
the
way it works (previously, on mountain passes with boost on for minutes at
a
time, I would always get perilously close to having to *really* worry
about
overheating). Also, his new custom manufactured door weatherproofing
seals
are great.
So, with the "DeLorean Service Centers", you get parts that work,
technical
advise and upgraded improvements where appropriate. I'll even pay a bit
more to have all that at my finger tips with one phone call. Choose the
one you are most comfortable with and you'll find DeLorean ownership just
that much more enjoyable.
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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 98 12:44:05 -0700
From: Matthew Laun <mlaun@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: FS: '81 5-speed (35.8K). Northern CA
VIN 2344
Asking $19,500
My uncle is looking for a buyer for his '81 5-speed (35.8K). He =
lives in Northern CA. The car is immaculate, mechanically maintained =
and runs great. If you're interested, drop me an email and I'll put =
you in touch with him. If more details are needed, please let me =
know. If you think someone you know would like to own a DMC of their =
own please forward this information to them.
Matt Laun
splatt@xxxxxxxxx
Matt's Super-Bargain-Coupon Signature! Keep this for Big Savings!!
Matthew Laun mlaun@xxxxxxxxxxxx 206-689-6358
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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:59:23 -0700
From: raddad@xxxxxxx
Subject: DML: More on Wedding Singer
See March 6 issue of Entertainment magazine (Buffy on cover), pg 10. In a
full column noting the number of historical inaccuracies in the Wedding
Singer which is set in 1985 we see a picture of a DeLorean (factory photo
- -
note D's in background) with the following text.
DETAIL: Drew Barrymore's trend-sucking yuppie boyfriend Glenn proudly
tools
around in his cool DeLorean.
FACT: The stainless-steel sports car was produced only for two short
years,
1981 and'82, and was universally considered a bomb way before 1985.
If they hadn't had Buffy on the cover I would have missed it! (There
*are*
advantages to raising a 12 year old grandson.)
Dick Ryan
The Rad Dad
Owner of, I guess, a non-existent '83 VIN 16867
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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 98 16:39:29 -0700
From: James Espey <espey@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: FutureFest '98
On 3/5/98 8:48 AM, time@xxxxxxxxxxxxx shared these fine thoughts...
>For further information on this proposed event, please visit the FutureFest
>website at "http://www.bttf.com/futurefest/" and send email to Universal
>Studios in support of the event (link provided on the page). Hope to see
>you in September!
Realizing the enormous contribution that the BTTF trilogy has made to the
recognition of the DeLorean automobile, I think that an event like this
can only further publicize the car, and perhaps expose it to a new
generation of individuals. I have sent a message in support of the event,
and I encourage the rest of the DML'ers to do the same.
http://www.bttf.com/futurefest/
James Espey
Moderator, DeLorean Mailing List
http://www.dmcnews.com/
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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:00:40 -0500
From: Rob Hook <Rob_hook@xxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: DML: Need clutch and pressure plate
I agree with this too. I tried using cross-reference parts on my
DeLorean
when I first got it but found it's just not worth it. It usually costs
more money and time. DMC Houston is also top-notch in my book. I've
been
using them almost exclusively.
- --Rob Hook
- ----------
Ron wrote:
>> Is the Houston supplier the best place to purchase the clutch and pressure
>> plate or does someone know the correct numbers to buy from a supply house
>> at much more reasonable prices.
Bill Marcussen responded:
>IMHO, purchasing your parts from one of the stocking distributors is
>_THE WAY TO GO_! I have found parts prices to be reasonable and they
>fit and function correctly.
James chimes in:
In addition to knwoing you'll be getting the correct part, the added
benefit of getting the technical support after the sale from someone who
is knowledgeable about the DeLorean is worth a great deal, IMO.
James
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Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 16:06:32 EST
From: "Dave.Sontos@CAGTAO" <uscagdas@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Cooling System
The saga continues. As I progress in the replacement of my cooling
system and am working in the engine compartment the question of why do I
have two umungus hoses coming from the waterpump. Why does the aluminum
pipe stop so far from the waterpump on both sides of the engine? Has
anyone looked into fabricating a aluminum pipe piece to bring it up to
the waterpump so you only need a short rubber hose elbow to connect it.
Seems like a logical idea to me, any nay sayers?
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Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 13:10:59 PST
From: "Mike Stokas" <dmc1985@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Where can I get a DMC??????????
I want to by a Delorean for about $14000. Do you know where or who I
could get one? Also for $14000 can I get a Delorean in good shape? I don
not care about the number of miles.
Mike
DMC1985@xxxxxxxxxxx
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Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 11:37:28 -0800
From: Hank Breer <hbreer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Delorean- The "poser" car?]
Dave Price wrote:
> About the "chick magnet" thread.. Now I don't like to generalize, but
> most
> women can sniff out a bargain. Materialistic women will see right past
> your 16-year-old sub-$20K car. If you're looking to get "chicks", buy a
> BMW. However, even women that don't care about money still won't like
> your D. Women like pretty cars with contours and colors. This car is
> cold,
> angular, void of color and very unappealing to "chicks". It looks more
> like a science project than a nice candy-coated automobile. Hope I didn't
> offend too many people, I just call 'em as I see 'em.
>
Well I won't say that I took offense to anything that you mentioned...
but I
figured that you might like to know the opinion of a female (since the
list is
incredibly men biased). First off this "chick" (and I kinda like that
term)
happens to love the DeLorean parked out front. Allright so it isn't my
car, it's
daddy's but hey it should still count - especially since I am part of a
very
small group of "kids" who are allowed to drive their parent's Ds. It has
much
more fluid contours and appealing shapes then any of the new fangled egg
shaped
suppository looking cars that are out and about now. Anyway the main
thing that
I am intrigued by on this whole poser issue, is not that D owners are out
to be
posers and get chicks... come on cars are usually a man thing you aren't
really
gonna attract women that way. The best way that the car would work is as
a
"testosterone" magnet... trust me while I have had tons of fun cruising
around
at the nashville expo with James and the bunch, I can have more attention
from
it driving around with another female friend... can't fight the men off
that
way. Just thought you might appreciate a female perspective, even if it
is just
from someone who likes to lurk on this thingy :)
Lorraine
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Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 13:33:16 -0600
From: scottmueller@xxxxxxxxx (Scott Mueller)
Subject: DML: Clutch & Pressure Plate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
From: "Ronald Pohala" <rpohala@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Need clutch and pressure plate
HI all Delorean lovers,
Is the Houston supplier the best place to purchase the clutch and
pressure
plate or does someone know the correct numbers to buy from a supply
house
at much more reasonable prices. ThaNk you. <<<<<<<<<<<<
Ron, Dealing with DMC in Houston has always been a pleasure for me.
Recently I needed 1 new parking brake pad, Warren sold me just 1 pad,
rather than the set of four. If I had gone to the local supplier with
the part number, I would have had to purchase all four pads. Since DMC
in Houston offers what I consider great customer service, I will
continue to give them my DMC specific business.
I would recommend DMC Houston to all members of the list. Warren is a
very helpful person and is always PLEASANT TO TALK TO.
As far as the slave cylinder is concerned, ask Warren, I believe that
his recommendations can be trusted to allow you to buy only what you
need.
Scott Mueller
Vin 2981
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Date: Thu, 05 Mar 98 20:56:05 PST
From: "Brandon S. Moody" <bsmoody@xxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Car for sale !
Hey folks. Anyone wanting to purchase a Delorean
in the Kentucky area,? I have found a nice car.
Its a later 81 model, grey interior , manual trans.
This car has 2K miles on it. I inspected and
drove the car for a bit. Its probably the best example
of a "virgin delorean" I have looked at. The owner
says it has never been wet. The frame of the car still
has that original shine to it. I couldn't even find a trace
of dirt underneath. The miles match the service counter
so I'm quite sure its legit. The price is firm at $19K. Anyone
that has $, and is ready to buy, Just send private email and
I will put the owner in touch with you. I have no financial
interest in this, but the owner has just ask me to look around
for a buyer.
Bsmoody@xxxxxxx
Brandon
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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 21:32:59 EST
From: CKHuge@xxxxxxxxxxxxx (CKHuge@xxxxxxx)
Subject: Re: DML: Where can I get a DMC??????????
Charlotte Christian School has a fairly nice 82 that was donated to them.
It
is being auctioned on the 14th of March. If you want more information
call me
at 704 366-5657. I am the Business Manager at CCS.
I look forward to hearing from you.
Cal Huge
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Date: Thu, 05 Mar 98 22:14:30 PST
From: "Brandon S. Moody" <bsmoody@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Cooling System
> Why does the aluminum
> pipe stop so far from the waterpump on both sides of the engine? Has
> anyone looked into fabricating a aluminum pipe piece to bring it up to
> the waterpump so you only need a short rubber hose elbow to connect it.
> Seems like a logical idea to me, any nay sayers?
Actually !, that WAS the original design. If you look in the dealer
sales
brochure at the page with the overhead photo of the frame/engine, You
will notice that this is how it is set up. The problem was that in this
configuration,
the thermo switch for the cooling fans was on TOP of the pipe . This
caused
a problem with air collecting in the socket and not allowing the fans to
switch
on. So, the "quick fix" for the company was to cut the pipe off, turn it
upside
down, and use a rubber hose to lead up to the water pump. I believe that
this
design was used up until around VIN 1230 or something like that. Anyway,
it
was changed early in production.
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Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 20:33:09 EST
From: dmcnut@xxxxxxxx (DeLorean Nut)
Subject: Re: DML: The DeLorean, The D-2, and The Bug
> The owner of the GT once remarked he would never buy a car he
>could not
>get parts for! His GT has been in the shop for repair 3 or 4 time the
>past year, Mine has never failed to start on the first hit!....BIG
>smile!
>
When I was about to purchase a Maserati that seemed like a "great deal,"
my uncle (longtime Ferrari owner) told me that is how it goes. He said
most Italian cars will spend half their lives in the shop if they are
driven with any regularity. After getting my DMC on the road last spring,
it has never been back to the shop where the engine work was done. I have
had no real problems to report and hope things stay that way.
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Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 20:33:09 EST
From: dmcnut@xxxxxxxx (DeLorean Nut)
Subject: DML: Re: Delorean UK)
>Are woman categorically attracted to the DeLorean? I have always said
>that if the DeLorean attracted single women like it does small
>children
>and teenage males, I'd be married by now.
>
>James
>
My girlfriend detests it and when I had it outside I overheard her giving
directions to a friend and saying, "We're the house with the big ugly
wedge...er, car...in the driveway." She is not into the attention-getting
aspect, and I must admit after countless remarks from the ignorant I am
getting tired of it myself. But hey, if someone approaches me about the
car and they are praising it for looks and not just asking questions,
it's usually a female:>}
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Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 11:56:48 +0100
From: "NallePooh"@world.std.com (dannyboy@xxxxxxxxxx)
Subject: DML: Anybody in Norway or Sweden that own's a DeLorean??
Is there anybody in Norway or Sweden that own's a DeLorean??
- -Dannie
- ---------------------------------------------------
"I'm not flying fast........just orbiting low"
http://surf.to/dannieboy/
http://come.to/the.aqua.page
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Date: Fri, 6 Mar 98 06:26:34 -0700
From: James Espey <espey@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Fwd: Re: Stainless
- ---------------- Begin Forwarded Message ----------------
Date: 03/05 10:42 PM
Received: 03/06 6:18 AM
From: lseiler@xxxxxxxxxxxx, lseiler@xxxxxxxxxxxx
To: MCCOMBC@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
CC: espey@xxxxxxxxxxx
At 03:04 PM 3/5/98 -0500, you wrote:
>Lee,
>Please indulge me. What does the burnishing tool actually do? I guess a
>better
>questions is : what is the skin on the DMC supposed to look like when it is
>finished properly... and what does the tool do to get it that way? Also,
>some
>time ago you mentioned that you put new tires on your car. Are you happy
>with
>them? What did you end up with?
>
>Thanks Lee,
>
>Cliff McComb
>mccombc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
note: James please post
reply:
Hi Cliff,
If you look ate your DMC you will see that the stainless surface has
fine parallel lines in the metal surface. These lines are called
burnishing. When your DMC was new the factory put this burnished pattern
onto the surface of each panel.
To re-apply this pattern you have two choices, do it by hand or do it
with a machine. The machine approach requires the tool I mentioned. It is
a cylindrical shape with an attachment that mounts in a drill motor or
drill chuck. around the circumference are 5 brushes which support
abrasive ribbons which can be adjusted to expose more or less of the
ribbon. when used the whole tool turns as fast as the motor will drive
it. pressing the edge of the tool against any surface causes the ribbons
at the edge to cut the surface, like the stainless steel panels. Moving
the tool along the length of the DMC will impart new fresh burnishing
(scratches) to the body panels. When complete the DMC body should have a
high lustrous sheen.
Generally what spoils the DeLorean finish is using scrubber pads,
rubbing cross grain, and allowing dirt and grime to build up in the
burnish surface. There are a number of cleaners and approaches to keeping
the body looking good. One is the bear metal approach the other is the
sealed approach.
There are as many ways to care for the body as there are owners.
As to tires: I got
Goodyear P195/60R14 Eagle GTII and
P235/60R15 Eagle GTII
The DMC handles just great, wet and dry roads are no problem. I have yet
to break rubber in high speed driving on winding country roads, and on
the highway, the DMC just hums down the road.
The tires were very reasonable in price, @ $79 and $94 each
Thanks
Lee
VIN#5729
Lic:81DMC12
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Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 08:35:49 -0500
From: Marc A Levy <malevy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Delorean- The "poser" car?]
There are 2 different classifications of "chicks" that we are
discussing. There is the type that appreciates the car for what it is
(as it seems Lorraine does), and the materialistic type.
It is possible the the women that are attracted to the beauty or
uniqueness of the car are not bold enough to come over and talk, because
they are shy or think that possibly the owner IS a "poser" and does not
want to feed his ego.
The materialistic women will most likely be more attracted to a "sure
thing" like a BMW, or Mercedes. I would venture to say that if you were
riding around in a more expensive rare car, you would also be ignored
by this type. (Tucker, for example) There are plenty of guys out
there hanging out in clubs with there corvettes outside that are willing
to throw cash around to get some "action"
Either way, I don't see the Delorean as a car that would attract a owner
who was looking for a "Chick Magnet", my experience has been that is
just isn't, although it would be a nice benefit!
Dave Price wrote:
> About the "chick magnet" thread.. Now I don't like to generalize, but
> most
> women can sniff out a bargain. Materialistic women will see right past
> your 16-year-old sub-$20K car. If you're looking to get "chicks", buy a
> BMW. However, even women that don't care about money still won't like
> your D. Women like pretty cars with contours and colors. This car is
> cold,
> angular, void of color and very unappealing to "chicks". It looks more
> like a science project than a nice candy-coated automobile. Hope I didn't
> offend too many people, I just call 'em as I see 'em.
>
Lorraine Breer wrote:
> It has much
> more fluid contours and appealing shapes then any of the new fangled egg
> shaped
> suppository looking cars that are out and about now. Anyway the main
> thing that
> I am intrigued by on this whole poser issue, is not that D owners are out
> to be
> posers and get chicks... come on cars are usually a man thing you aren't
> really
> gonna attract women that way. The best way that the car would work is as a
> "testosterone" magnet... trust me while I have had tons of fun cruising
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Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 08:38:24 -0500
From: Marc A Levy <malevy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: More on Wedding Singer
Wow.. I guess we really are "Delorean Wacko's"!
raddad@xxxxxxx wrote:
>
> DETAIL: Drew Barrymore's trend-sucking yuppie boyfriend Glenn proudly
> tools around in his cool DeLorean.
>
> FACT: The stainless-steel sports car was produced only for two short
> years, 1981 and'82, and was universally considered a bomb way before 1985.
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Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 7:58:15 -0600
From: Don Gowler-CFPO01 <Don_Gowler-CFPO01@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: ALUMINUM V/S RUBBER
Vin # 1149 has this full aluminum pipe configuration. It does run a bit
warmer than my 82 as a result of the upside-down thermo switch but not
out of control.
Regards, The Silver Fox
>> Why does the aluminum
>> pipe stop so far from the waterpump on both sides of the engine? Has
>> anyone looked into fabricating a aluminum pipe piece to bring it up to
>> the waterpump so you only need a short rubber hose elbow to connect it.
>> Seems like a logical idea to me, any nay sayers?
>
>Actually !, that WAS the original design. If you look in the dealer sales
>brochure at the page with the overhead photo of the frame/engine, You
>will notice that this is how it is set up. The problem was that in this
>configuration, the thermo switch for the cooling fans was on TOP of the
>pipe . This caused a problem with air collecting in the socket and not
>allowing the fans to switch on. So, the "quick fix" for the company was
>to cut the pipe off, turn it upside down, and use a rubber hose to lead
>up to the water pump. I believe that this design was used up until
>around VIN 1230 or something like that. Anyway, it was changed early
>in production.
>
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Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 09:45:54 -0600
From: scottmueller@xxxxxxxxx (Scott Mueller)
Subject: DML: Parking Brake Update
I just repalced the Inboard Passenger side parking brake pad. The old
one vanished along with the drivers side sway bar bushing. I believe
that this can be contributed to Mardis Graes season in Mobile.
All of the other pads looked brand new. I noticed that there are 0.173"
holes at the top of the parking brake pad backing plate. Do you suppose
that there should be a retaining pin through the pads like the ones used
on the main brakes ( 6-2-0, #109010 Pin Pad Retaining). This pin would
be captured by the bracket (6-2-1, #109034 Retraction Plate).
If someone with access to a machine shop would like to fabricate this
part, lets talk about the cost of purchasingtwo of these "pins". I do
not know how common losing a parking brake pad is, but I do know thaqt
to replace one pad costs $22.50.
Scott Mueller
vin #2981
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Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 12:09:28 -0800
From: Dave Price <davep@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Alternator questions..
1) If I have an '83, do I have a Delucier or Motorola alternator? (and
when
did they switch?...)
2) Does anyone know the power output for either of them?
2a) Is this standard/good/bad for an alternator?
3) What alternators are compatable with the Delorean?
3a) What are the power output of these?
I'm going to be installing a computer (with a power inverter) and a stereo
with an amp into my D and I wanted to ensure I will have enough power to
do
so... Thanks!!
Dave
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Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 12:23:34 -0800
From: "Ken Montgomery" <kenm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: DeLorean's accountants ordered to pay millions
Found this on the FOX news site:
http://www.foxnews.com
(do a search on 'delorean')
DeLorean's accountants ordered to pay millions
12.32 p.m. ET (1733 GMT) March 6, 1998
NEW YORK (AP) _ The accounting firm Arthur Andersen will have
to pay up to $110 million to John DeLorean's creditors after a jury
ruled the accountants should have known of his car company's shaky
deals.
DeLorean's car manufacturing enterprise went bankrupt 16 years
ago, leaving a trail of unpaid bills.
After less than three hours of deliberations, the state jury
recommended Thursday that the accountants pay $46.2 million,
plus up to $65 million in interest.
Jurors found the accountants signed off on DeLorean's financial
statements despite evidence of possible fraud.
DeLorean was never convicted of fraud, but has been ordered to
pay investors and creditors about $9 million. The plaintiffs argued
that he was siphoning away millions of dollars through a fictional
Panamanian company.
Robert C. Hubbell, a spokesman for Arthur Andersen, said the firm
will appeal. Hubbell said the accounting firm already has paid $35
million to the British government, the largest investor in the
DeLorean Motor Co. That should reduce the settlement, he said.
A judge will decide how much interest the accountants must pay.
Michael D. Hess, the lawyer for the plaintiffs, said Arthur Andersen
kept issuing opinions favorable to the carmaker "because that is what
John DeLorean wanted.''
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I don't see any way he'll ever come up with a new car. No creditor in
their right mind would front him the money.
Ken Montgomery
VIN #10911 www.mother.com/~arkham/delorean01.htm
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Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 16:46:41 -0500
From: Marc A Levy <malevy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Delorean- The "poser" car?]
A funny thing happend to me right after I wrote this message.
I pulled in to a gas station, and the car in front of me started to back
up, so I honked. The driver stopped, and put the car in to park. I got
out of my car to start pumping gas (yes, I know this is illegal in NJ)
and heard a voice from the car in front of me.
"Wow! Is that a Delorean, how old is that"
"yes" I replied, "It is about 17 years old"
She (yes, SHE) then got out of her car to take a closer look at the
Delorean.
This is the first time I have had a woman look at my car.
No, I did not pick her up...
Marc A Levy wrote:
>
> There are 2 different classifications of "chicks" that we are
<SNIP>
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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 13:38:40 -0800
From: Matt Peak <mpeak@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Deserving Buyers
>While I have no intentions of selling my D for years, unless I am forced to
>do so because of money problems, I'm sure that my attachment to the car is
>such that I would much rather take a little less and know that it was going
>to someone who would feel about it as I do than simply sell it for top
>dollar. The age of the pruchaser would be unimportant. Like Geoffrey, I
>believe that the purchase price is just the beginning and I would want to
>make sure that the purchaser clearly understood that.
>
>Dick Ryan
>The Rad Dad
You're not the only one, Dick...
When I discovered the Delorean that I had to have, I was about $4K short.
The owner sympathized with me and, since his father-in-law had a deep
passion for the car, had a personal desire to sell the car to an owner he
flet would appreciate it most. Therefore, he withdrew his ad in the
paper,
knocked of $1K, and stored it for me for three months so I could continue
working and saving to buy his car. I couldn't have hoped for a better
situation.
If I ever have to sell mine someday, I plan on doing the same.
Matt
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Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 16:50:13 -0500
From: Marc A Levy <malevy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Alternator questions..
Look through the archives, there was a modification where a Delco
140(??) amp alternator was put in to the D. This is what I would
recommend you do.
Why do you want a computer in your car?! Even if you did, why not use a
laptop? they usualy will run on 12VDC. No need for inverter.
Dave Price wrote:
> I'm going to be installing a computer (with a power inverter) and a stereo
> with an amp into my D and I wanted to ensure I will have enough power to
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 10:54:33 -0800
From: Eric Altendorf <altevan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Finishes
Here are a couple questions, inspired by the discussion of the
burnishing tool.
One, has anyone tried sandblasting or beadblasting the panels to get a
homogenous "satin" texture? Did it work?
Two, could either the burnishing tool or a sand/bead-blaster be used to
strip the paint from a painted DeLorean, or would some chemical process
be required? (I'm not too familiar with the process people used to
paint the cars, actually.)
Thanks,
- -e.
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 17:14:59 -0600
From: Jordan Gary <jordang@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Alternator questions..
Computers and stereos take very little current. That is why stereos use
2 amp
fuses. The only thing which uses any real current in a computer is the
monitor. Still any alternator and strong battery has lots of surplus.
Lights
use much more current than electronics. RVs with refrigerators, lots of
lights, TVs, etc might need more than a 65-80 amp alternator, but I can't
think of a DeLorean needing such. Jordan Gary vin 0794
Dave Price wrote:
> 1) If I have an '83, do I have a Delucier or Motorola alternator? (and
> when
> did they switch?...)
>
> 2) Does anyone know the power output for either of them?
> 2a) Is this standard/good/bad for an alternator?
>
> 3) What alternators are compatable with the Delorean?
> 3a) What are the power output of these?
>
> I'm going to be installing a computer (with a power inverter) and a stereo
> with an amp into my D and I wanted to ensure I will have enough power to
> do
> so... Thanks!!
>
> Dave
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Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 20:02:23 -0600
From: Duke <duke@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Alabama Meeting
I would like to invite any fellow DeLorean owners for a get-together =
lunch in Greenville, Al. on March 21st. Anyone interested in joining =
us may feel free to email me for further details. Last time, myself, =
Bill Burden, and Scott Muller enjoyed some great conversation and =
exchanged very useful information. (Not to mention getting a lot of =
attention) We are hoping to make this a monthly event and welcome =
everyone.
Thanks,
Duke Bladorn
www.geocities.com/motorcity/8952/delorean.html
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Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 21:19:15 -0500
From: Dan <dan@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Alternator questions..
On Fri, Mar 06, 1998 at 05:14:59PM -0600, Jordan Gary wrote:
> Computers and stereos take very little current. That is why stereos use
> 2 amp fuses.
My stereo system draws a whole lot more than 2 amps. I'm only running a
200 watt amp and it uses a 40 amp fuse. Some high current amps made by
companies like Rockford and Phoenix Gold require 1/0 wire and 2 60 amp
fuses.
>Still any alternator and strong battery has lots of surplus.
The DMC was never known as having a very strong electrical system.
With stock equipment and the orgiginal (1981) alternator, you can overdraw
the electrical system by turning on all your accessories.
> Lights use much more current than electronics.
US headlight are what, like 55 watts each? A computer PS is at least 150
watts, plus the loss of efficiency in the inverter.
Dan
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Date: Fri, 6 Mar 98 20:31:15 -0700
From: James Espey <espey@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Craig Radio Service Manual Wanted
I am looking for a service manual for the Craig radios (factory original
radio in the 81's). Please email me if you have an original or a copy.
Thanks!
James
espey@xxxxxxxxxxx
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Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 21:45:00 -0800
From: Gary Hull <ghull@xxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: RE: BTTF
Arnie Brandon just read a printed copy of a previous listing, and wishes
to
respond to it as follows.
I have six copies of "The Secrets of the Back to the Future Trilogy" for
sale at $20.00 each plus $3.00 Shipping and Handling. This video answers
questions about the three movies. It also includes some interviews and
additional scenes that were not included in the movies. New, sealed,
original.
Please reply off of the list to reserve your copy and make arrangements
for
purchase.
Thanks
Gary Hull
for
Arnie Brandon
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Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 23:53:39 -0600
From: James Nichols <jhnichols@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Alternator questions..
Dave Price wrote:
> 1) If I have an '83, do I have a Delucier or Motorola alternator? (and
> when
> did they switch?...)
> 2) Does anyone know the power output for either of them?
> 2a) Is this standard/good/bad for an alternator?
The only way to tell which alternator you have is to look at it. An '83
should have a Motorola, but it could be a Delucier or Motorola or Delco
or other model, since any 12 volt with internal regulator can be made to
fit.
It's bad enough trying to follow soneone who is using a cellphone, I
can't imagine trying follow someone down the freeway using a
keyboard! Besides, TV sets are illegal in the front seats of
vehicles in many states. Where are you going to put the CRT and how are
you going to explain to a local cop that it's not a TV?
Jim #6884
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Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 00:13:01 -0800
From: "lseiler@xxxxxxxxxxxx" <lseiler@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Finishes
At 10:54 AM 3/6/98 -0800, you wrote:
>Here are a couple questions, inspired by the discussion of the
>burnishing tool.
>
>One, has anyone tried sandblasting or beadblasting the panels to get a
>homogenous "satin" texture? Did it work?
>
>Two, could either the burnishing tool or a sand/bead-blaster be used to
>strip the paint from a painted DeLorean, or would some chemical process
>be required? (I'm not too familiar with the process people used to
>paint the cars, actually.)
>
>Thanks,
>
>-e.
reply:
Under no circumstances should your glass bead the stainless, it will
wrap and twist, develop ripples and generally look like sh... If you want
to strip the paint, go to an auto paint store and get a good commercial
auto paint stripper. To do it right you should remove the panels before
stripping.
Thanks
Lee
VIN#5729
Lic:81DMC12
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Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 00:21:37 -0800
From: "lseiler@xxxxxxxxxxxx" <lseiler@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Dry Balls
Brandon wrote............
>"I have experienced more squeaks coming from the ball/socket joints
>on either end of the air piston rather than the hinge itself."
When your right .....you are right! a little WD-40 on the back Air-strut
ball joint and it was ..."squeak be gone!"
Thanks from "no more Dry balls".
Thanks
Lee
VIN#5729
Lic:81DMC12
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Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 09:17:36 -0600
From: James Nichols <jhnichols@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Chick Magnet
Last fall I was at a gas station in East Texas when three young ladies
wheeled in, in their old Oldsmobile, jumped out and ran over to the
Delorean. I say young ladies, the oldest may have been pushing 40, or
she may just have been ridden hard and put away wet a few too many
times. I say young because that's twenty some years younger than me.
The cute one was missing a front tooth when she smiled. Made me think I
was in West Virginia!
After many questions, "What is it?", "Is it a Ferrari?", "How fast will
it go?", I found out that they just wanted a few bucks for gas for their
old Oldsmobile.
Jim #6884
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Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 10:35:06 EST
From: Kayo Ong <KayoOng@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Alternator questions..
It is possible to over load the usage of the normal stock factory
alternator's
output.
With today's demand especially in a sports/exotic car one would like a
general
listing of the following in a highest to the lowest demand:
1) Good Stereo - which means more amplifers - need more current draw
2) Cellular Phones
3) Auxuliary driving - fog and or driving lights - needs more current.
4) Radar detectors - a no, no, but a must.
5) The new GPS systems - if you need one.
6) C.B. radios or F.M. units.
7) New gadgets and new gears that out there just to add more drain and
pain
to the alternator.
If everyone understand that the stock alternator output is just bearly
enough
supplies the "amps", and further more with the air conditon to "kick" on,
during the hot summer nights, or just the radiator fans to kick on; watch
the
drop on the gauge and the lights on the vehicle start to dimmmmmmmmmm.
If the
battery if not up to par, and the terminals are not up to snuff, and
after a
couple of minutes of driving in rainning conditons with the wiper motor
on,
and in slow creeping moving traffic at nights with the headlights plus or
maybe with the driving or fog lights on, with the stereo or with the C.B.
or
cell phone in use, you got a major disaster on your hands.
Remember the applied engineering rule.
All aircrafts, vehicles, vessels or units will "use" the battery to
"start"
the a mechanical motion of an engine of some sort to "generate" electrical
energy by an "generator or an alternator". The job of the this generating
device will then ONLY supply the electrical needs of the aircraft,
vehicle,
vessels, or other units. If the electical demand is higher then the
output of
the this generating device, the "regulator" will then allows the BATTERY
to
supplement the ADDITIONAL demand or needs, until the battery it self will
be
over drawn - DEAD.
If you can make sense out of this, you can see why with a "real
situation" as
above, you can be in serious shape. Higher out alternator is best!!!!!!!
If
anybody out there differs the opinion, please let me know your different
way
of solution. Looking to, save money and not "alter" the vechile original
condition anymore. If you drive everyday with the vehicle and the
conditions
stated above, in a major city like NYC? Good luck.
Kayo Ong
#05508
Lic. 9D
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