dmcnews-digest Wednesday, December 23 1998 Volume 03 : Number 457
In this issue:
Re: DML: Superchargers for the PRV6 (was re: Turbos)
DML: Exhaust Modificatrions - the return!
DML: DeLorean sighting
Re: DML: Re: Turbo DMC
DML: UPDATE GULLWING PAGE
DML: Original vs. altered, and the "list"
DML: Re: Re: Ful Pump Inop.
DML: Factory Settings for Door Alignment
DML: NJ DeLorean sighting
DML: Right Hand Coolant Pipe Failure
Re: DML: Re: Turbo DMC
DML: Re: Factory Settings for Door Alignment
DML: Newbie...Looking for repair manual
DML: Price
DML: High Maintenance comment
DML: Need a louver for over the engine compartment
Re: DML: NJ DeLorean sighting
DML: A couple of things
DML: altering the Delorean
DML: Re: DeLorean Services House Calls
DML: High RPM at Idle
DML: Wheels to store your Delorean
Re: DML: Need a louver for over the engine compartment
Re: DML: High Maintenance comment
Re: DML: NJ DeLorean sighting
Re: DML: altering the Delorean
DML: Re: High RPM at Idle
Re: DML: A couple of things
DML: Re: Wheels to store your Delorean
DML: Re: Price
DML: Re: Newbie...Looking for repair manual
DML: Re: High RPM at Idle
DML: Re: A couple of things
DML: Re: altering the Delorean
DML: The magic day
DML: Makeovers
DML: VIN's between 520 and 614? Anyone, anyone?
DML: Stainless Steel
DML: Cruise Control
DML: Re: High RPM at Idle
DML: Re: VIN's between 520 and 614? Anyone, anyone?
DML: Re: Stainless Steel
DML: Re: VIN's between 520 and 614? Anyone, anyone?
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Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 17:49:16 -0500
From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Superchargers for the PRV6 (was re: Turbos)
Dave,
We know of no supercharger for the PRV-6.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / Happy Holiday's / dmcjoe@xxxxxxx
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Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 17:49:27 +0000
From: "Martin Gutkowski (UK)" <martin.is@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Exhaust Modificatrions - the return!
I posted a piece regarding the modifications Simon Lees-Milne of the DOC
has had done on his car. After the responses I received both privately
and on the DML, I faxed Simon, and he has sent me a lengthy letter
regarding his conversion as well as a picture of the customised
manifolds. I will post this on my web page as soon as my friend scans it
in :-)
Here is a transcript of Simon's letter:
Since Martin told you about the great improvements I have made to my
European Prototype D, Vin# 11133, I have been back to the engineer who
worked on the car, and together with the points told me from many
conversations I have had over the years with engineers from Lotus, who
worked on the D between 1978 and 1980, I must explain the following:
1) The PRV engine was seriously modified both to the injection and
exhaust systems to meet the stringent USA emissions controls. Lotus
designed a free-flow exhaust and did not want to fit either a calalyst
or Lambda sensor. They new the engine should produce at least 150-160bhp
and the weight of the D needed that output to make it go. The european
prototypes did not have either the lambda or cat, but the awful exhaust
manifolds and pipes and silencers remained. These alone removed some
15hp! Remember the engine was designed to be used in front-mounted
Renaults/Peugeots, so in the D, the piping faces forwards. You will see
from the photo how beautifully simple and efficient the proper free-flow
manifolds are. We have also fitted an identically sized silencer, but
without baffle plates.
2) As any engineer will know, if the gases get away quickly and cleanly,
you can put more fuel into the cylinders. You can also increase the air
flow, either by ram air or improved filters. We have chosen the former
by removing the hot/cold air valve housing. See D:07:01 in the workshop
manual. [Simon was also V interested in the K&N filter and now has the
part number]
3) As the K-Jetronic injection system is purely mechanical, it is
possible to adjust the flow into the cylinders without the ECU
automatically correcting this, as it would in a post 1990 Bosch system.
To adjust the flow, look in the centre top of the Mixture Control Unit
(D:01:02) for a 3mm hex screw. It is probably hidden under sealant, mine
was. Turn this screw a 1/2 turn to the right and there will be a
dramatic increase in supply. I was not correct when I said this reduces
return flow to the tank, in fact it makes no difference [there's your
answer, Bruce!]
Now the downside! All this is not very environmentally friendly! We in
the UK have a more lenient attitude towards 1980 cars, and our annual
test makes allowances for special vehicles. However, before you set
about making your car go like it should, check your State regulations on
emissions.
My engineer also warns that unless you do points 1 and 2, doing 3 can do
long-term damage (washing out the sylinders and causing piston and ring
damage) to your engine and certainly to no performance advantage.
Nothing is that easy with motor cars!
I hope this clarifies the situation and although I have never driven a
"standard" D with 130bhp, I can assure you 167 is fun! I have two other
classic cars, both Italian, producing 195 and 330bhp so I appreciate
accelleration and torque!
Best wishes,
Simon
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Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 15:59:17 EST
From: LovDMC12@xxxxxxx
Subject: DML: DeLorean sighting
Yesterday as I was returning home, I spot a DeLorean coming onto I-77
North
from the exit off of Jackson Blvd. near Ft. Jackson, South Carolina. I
was
curious if the owner of this vehicle was on the list. It was the first
time
I've seen a DMC-12 on the road since I bought mine back in February.
I was also wondering if there are any list members from South Carolina.
I'd
like to get a list of names and numbers so that we could possibly have
some
gatherings and share information and our DeLorean experiences. Please
email
me privately.
Brian Henson
VIN 1597
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Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 18:35:27 EST
From: DeLorean31@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: DML: Re: Turbo DMC
In a message dated 98-12-20 18:04:43 EST, you write:
<< Yes, the DeLorean can be a high maintenance vehicle if you piece meal
the
known upgrades and improvements. >>
Is there a list of all the known upgrades the DeLorean should have?
Gary
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Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 16:25:56 -0800
From: Alex Krochmal <alexk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: UPDATE GULLWING PAGE
I HAVE UPDATED THE PAGE IS STILL AT http://members.xoom.com/Gullwings/
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Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 21:40:57 EST
From: ABatt10347@xxxxxxx
Subject: DML: Original vs. altered, and the "list"
Fellow DMCer's,
I have followed the resent postings on the two above subjects. First
custom or
original. If you want a perfect D, then stay original. Or if you choose
to,
custom it.
The value of the D is not my reason for purchasing mine. I enjoy driving
my D
each day. I have seen "perfect D's". And I have seen D's that were
customed to
the max. My D looks original but the changes I have made to it, are things
that I can change back to original in about 30 min. We all have our own
reasons for owning this fine autos. The bottom line ( custom or original)
is
we all have a great auto!!!
Now onto the second topic: This list has helped me and everyone who reads
it
in some way. In answers to my questions, in the answers to others
questions,
and by the general sharing of the experiences of owning this auto. If the
party who trashed the list feels that way, so be it. That's one less
person to
have to deal with. ( In whole or "parts"). If any of you subscribe to any
other "autos" lists then you know how special this list is. So, James
keep it
coming, its like a Xmas present three times a week, 52 weeks a year!!!!!
Bruce Battles
Vin #6569
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Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 00:02:43 -0500
From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: Re: Ful Pump Inop.
Mike,
Remove the fuel pump inspection plate under your spare tire, than remove
the fuel pump cover. Attach a 12 V test light between ground and the
PURPLE
/ WHITE wire which is connected to the top of the fuel pump, turn your
ignition key
to the start position. If the test lamp lights than you either have a
ground problem of a defective pump. Let me know the result.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / Happy Holiday's / dmcjoe@xxxxxxx
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Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 10:07:25 +0000
From: JOHN_GEULEY@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: DML: Factory Settings for Door Alignment
Hi All,
Can anyone supply me with the factory settings for the
Door Alignment ??
Best Wishes and Merry Xmas
John G.
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Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 07:52:04 -0500
From: Marc A Levy <malevy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: NJ DeLorean sighting
Saturday morning, at about 10:30AM I saw a Delorean making a U-TURN on
Route-520 (Newman Springs Road) in Shrewsbury New Jersey. There were 2
ladies in the car. Are you on the list?
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Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 11:12:41 -0500
From: "R. Starling" <doctor280@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Right Hand Coolant Pipe Failure
In 1992 DMC Joe wrote an article and explained how the right hand coolant
pipe could fail. He was correct, because this occurred to me. On my web
sight I have detailed which coolant pipe this is and how to correct the
problem. Check it out at "Stainless Steel Dream" on Repair Page 2.
http://www.freeyellow.com/members5/stainlesssteel/
Robert Starling
Vin#5252
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Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 05:23:46 -0700
From: scottmueller@xxxxxxxxx (Scott Mueller)
Subject: Re: DML: Re: Turbo DMC
Yes there is, The DMCNEWS archieves has a complete listing of all the
upgrades.
Scott Mueller
Date: Sunday, December 20, 1998 9:05 PM
Subject: Re: DML: Re: Turbo DMC
>
>Is there a list of all the known upgrades the DeLorean should have?
>
>Gary
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Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 14:24:23 -0500
From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: Factory Settings for Door Alignment
John,
Although there ware several pages of information printed by the factory on
the door lock setting and alignment there is only one half page of
information on door alignment. We can supply you with that page if you
desire. Please email us directly for more information.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / Happy Holiday's / dmcjoe@xxxxxxx
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Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 14:52:14 PST
From: "chris severn" <glimmer999@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Newbie...Looking for repair manual
I am new to the Delorean arena and i am looking for the actual repair
book. I have seen many sites with PDF files but i cannot print them
out. Does anone know where i can purhase a copy of the manual? thanks
a bunch
Chris Severn
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Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 18:38:11 -0800
From: x2600@xxxxxxxx (Dr. K x Proxy)
Subject: DML: Price
When the Deloreans were first being sold what was the asking price?
If nobody is really sure, did the car increase Value?
Kris
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Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 18:47:33 EST
From: JCox4001@xxxxxxx
Subject: DML: High Maintenance comment
Sorry if I offended with my comment on the De Lorean being a high
maintenance
vehicle. I made the comment in jest, knowing full well that we have all
felt
the frustrations of the "quirks". I have taken alot of heat over the
comment.
I did not mean any harm.
Jeff
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Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 19:08:24 -0500
From: "Ronald Pohala" <rpohala@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Need a louver for over the engine compartment
Anyone have one for sale.
Just wondering
Thanks
Ron Happy Holidays everyone
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Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 19:34:08 EST
From: Jimbo0946@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: DML: NJ DeLorean sighting
I live about a minute from NewmanSprings Road, but It wasn't me if it was
two
girls in it. I would also like to know who that was since we live so
close to
each other.
Jim Carroll
VIN#15880
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Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 19:40:36 EST
From: Jimbo0946@xxxxxxx
Subject: DML: A couple of things
DMLer's,
Has anyone ever experienced the difficulty to put the car in REVERSE
with a
five speed? It is usually normal when I first start the car in the
morning,
but sometimes after driving alittle, it takes a couple of tries. Also,
this
rarely happens, but sometimes (1 out of 50 times) when I put the key in
the
ignition, it has a VERY hard time turning. Thanks for any responds.
JimmyC
VIN#15880
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Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 17:23:03 PST
From: "Darrin Nieves" <d_nieves@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: altering the Delorean
As a fellow owner of a "odd" car (RX7- not rare/just odd <rotary>) I can
understand your wanting to keep the car stock, in terms of altering its
exterior appearance, aren't the choices for the Delorean slim to none?
It's not as if body moldings/air dams/redesigned front and rear bumpers
were ever offered. I think the Delorean is beautiful but I am curious
what would one of these beauties look like with a aftermarket make-over?
Any pictures?
Darrin
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Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 19:25:31 -0500
From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: DeLorean Services House Calls
TO ALL:
We are completing our planes for our House Call road trip through S.
Carolina, N Carolina, Tennessee, and Georgia in early January. If your
DeLorean needs a visit from the doctor for a check up or repair let us
know
so that we can add you to our appointment list. To date we have eight
stops
to make between Sunday Jan.3 and Thursday Jan 7. Planed cities that we
will
be stopping at are Greenville, and Chesnee SC, Charlotte, Greensboro,
Winston Salem, Hickory, and Asheville NC. Than on to Knoxville, and
Chattanooga TN, and finally down through north Georgia and finally back to
Atlanta. Email us directly for more information,
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / Happy Holiday's / dmcjoe@xxxxxxx
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Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 23:27:40 -0500
From: Michael Pack <mpack1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: High RPM at Idle
Dear Bruce Benson
Thank you for your help with the fuel pump. The inertia switch fried
itself, but now the new switch is in and everything is ok except for,
I have High RMPs at idle. DMC spec is around 1000 rpm at idle. I'm
reading 1,500 in park and neutral. In drive or reverse I'm at 1000.
Why did it change? How can I reset it?
Thank you again
Michael Pack
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Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 23:47:54 EST
From: CBL302@xxxxxxx
Subject: DML: Wheels to store your Delorean
This is just a little tip for the people who store their deloreans for the
winter,If you are looking for tires/rims that will fit a Delorean,to use
for
storage,1971 thru 1976 Chevy
Vega rims will fit a Delorean,that also includes1976 thru 1980 Chevy
monza,skyhawk
and pontiac starfire,they all use the four lug bolt pattern,and fit
perfectly,cheap and easy to find.
Claude
Vin#000570
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Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 02:10:39 -0800
From: "lseiler@xxxxxxxxxxxx" <lseiler@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Need a louver for over the engine compartment
At 07:08 PM 12/21/98 -0500, you wrote:
>Anyone have one for sale.
>
>Just wondering
>Thanks
>
>Ron Happy Holidays everyone
>
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>
I have one that I repaired, it is as good as new, but then it broke under
normal use?
If you want it let me know.
Lee
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Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 02:31:40 -0800
From: "lseiler@xxxxxxxxxxxx" <lseiler@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: High Maintenance comment
At 06:47 PM 12/21/98 EST, you wrote:
>Sorry if I offended with my comment on the De Lorean being a high
>maintenance
>vehicle. I made the comment in jest, knowing full well that we have all
>felt
>the frustrations of the "quirks". I have taken alot of heat over the
>comment.
>I did not mean any harm.
>
>Jeff
reply:
Hay Jeff,
I agree the DeLorean is a high maintenance machine, plus it has a very
poor electrical system, which is not even able to support the car with out
modification. There are mechanical parts that are just so much junk, that
will never be repairable, just replaceable. Any one giving you a had time
just tell them to go twist rusty nuts.........
But Jeff just remember that it is a lot of fun to struggle against over
whelming odds in a single handed fight for truth, Justice and the DeLorean
way!
Lee
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Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 07:47:31 -0500
From: Marc A Levy <malevy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: NJ DeLorean sighting
I work in Holmdel..
The car A saw looked like it had 2 girls in it.. The car had the black
decal running up the side, and had NJ plates.
It was turning on to Rt520 WEST going towards the Parkway. Right next
to the BellCore building.
I was not in my D, so they did not pay any attention to me! :(
Jimbo0946@xxxxxxx wrote:
>
> I live about a minute from NewmanSprings Road, but It wasn't me if it was
> two
> girls in it. I would also like to know who that was since we live so
> close to
> each other.
>
> Jim Carroll
> VIN#15880
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Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 07:50:16 -0500
From: Marc A Levy <malevy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: altering the Delorean
The most appearance modifications I have seen were in Ohio. Curtis
Bryant (VIN# 10159) obviously spent many hours and much money working on
his car. I have pictures from Ohio at
http://remus.rutgers.edu/~mxl/dmc/cinn/cin.html Too see just his car,
check out http://remus.rutgers.edu/~mxl/dmc/cinn/pic06.jpg
Darrin Nieves wrote:
>
> As a fellow owner of a "odd" car (RX7- not rare/just odd <rotary>) I can
> understand your wanting to keep the car stock, in terms of altering its
> exterior appearance, aren't the choices for the Delorean slim to none?
> It's not as if body moldings/air dams/redesigned front and rear bumpers
> were ever offered. I think the Delorean is beautiful but I am curious
> what would one of these beauties look like with a aftermarket make-over?
> Any pictures?
>
> Darrin
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Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 05:15:13 -0800
From: "Dave Price" <davep2@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: High RPM at Idle
>I have High RMPs at idle. DMC spec is around 1000 rpm at idle. I'm
>reading 1,500 in park and neutral. In drive or reverse I'm at 1000.
>
I'm getting the same problem.. I fixed it (kinda) by adjusting the bolt
that
stops the gas pedal. It could be that your pedal isn't returning to the
fully rested position. However, if you adjust it too far up, the car acts
funny when you let off the pedal.. kinda sputters and stuff. The only
problem I found was that I couldn't find that "happy medium", so I'm back
to
the high idle. Give it a try, maybe you'll have better luck!
BTW: On my car the bolt was just bare metal, and when I let off the gas
pedal it would always "clink" as it hit it... If anyone else is getting
this, you may want to get a little rubber bumper for it (like the ones on
the hood stops). Just be sure and adjust the bolt upwards the height of
the
bumper you add.
- - Dave
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Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 07:53:58 -0500
From: Marc A Levy <malevy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: A couple of things
Do you have the adjustable clutch link? or Braided clutch line?? They
both seem to help hard shifting problems. As the old plastic line gets
hot, it will expand more. This makes it so it is hard to shift. You
can purchase both items from PJgrady.
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Not sure about the steering, but try a shot of lubricant on the rubber
grommet where the column goes through the floor.
Since I know we are neighbors now, give me a call if you need a hand!
Jimbo0946@xxxxxxx wrote:
>
> DMLer's,
> Has anyone ever experienced the difficulty to put the car in REVERSE
> with a
> five speed? It is usually normal when I first start the car in the
> morning,
> but sometimes after driving alittle, it takes a couple of tries. Also,
> this
> rarely happens, but sometimes (1 out of 50 times) when I put the key in
> the
> ignition, it has a VERY hard time turning. Thanks for any responds.
>
> JimmyC
> VIN#15880
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Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 10:09:05 -0500
From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: Wheels to store your Delorean
Claude,
Very good find, I have another wheel that has the same stud set up as the
DeLorean. How about E-Z -GO golf cars. Although I've never actually tried
to fit one on a DeLorean I can tell you that the stud set up is a match
because I have fitted a DeLorean spare on to the rear of an E-Z-GO.
Actually you have a practical suggestion. Fitting the tires you mentioned
for a stored DeLorean would be a good alternative to jack stands. BTW,
Congratulations on owning the 70th DeLorean out of the factory.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / Happy Holiday's / dmcjoe@xxxxxxx
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> From: CBL302@xxxxxxx
> To: DMCNEWS@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: DML: Wheels to store your Delorean
> Date: Monday, December 21, 1998 11:47 PM
>
> This is just a little tip for the people who store their deloreans for
the
> winter,If you are looking for tires/rims that will fit a Delorean,to use
> for
> storage,1971 thru 1976 Chevy
> Vega rims will fit a Delorean,that also includes1976 thru 1980 Chevy
> monza,skyhawk
> and pontiac starfire,they all use the four lug bolt pattern,and fit
> perfectly,cheap and easy to find.
>
> Claude
> Vin#000570
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Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 10:52:32 -0500
From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: Price
Kris,
The original DeLoreans list price was $25,000 for a short period of time
they listed at $ 34,000.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / Happy Holiday's / dmcjoe@xxxxxxx
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> From: Dr. K x Proxy <x2600@xxxxxxxx>
> To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: DML: Price
> Date: Monday, December 21, 1998 9:38 PM
>
> When the Deloreans were first being sold what was the asking price?
> If nobody is really sure, did the car increase Value?
>
> Kris
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Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 11:00:30 -0500
From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: Newbie...Looking for repair manual
Chris,
Manuals are available from most of the the DeLorean part suppliers. Ask
for
the Workshop Manual and Parts Manual.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / Happy Holiday's / dmcjoe@xxxxxxx
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> From: chris severn <glimmer999@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: DML: Newbie...Looking for repair manual
> Date: Monday, December 21, 1998 5:52 PM
>
> I am new to the Delorean arena and i am looking for the actual repair
> book. I have seen many sites with PDF files but i cannot print them
> out. Does anone know where i can purhase a copy of the manual? thanks
> a bunch
>
> Chris Severn
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Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 11:04:15 -0500
From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: High RPM at Idle
Michael,
The specified idle speed is 750 RPM + or - 50 RPM. The idle speed is
controlled by the IDLE SPEED SYSTEM which is comprised of the IDLE SPEED
ECU, an IDLE SPEED REGULATOR, MICRO SWITCH, a THERMISTOR, and a DIODE. You
will find all of these components in ( D:05:03 ) of your Workshop Manual.
Most problems in this circuit are caused by a malfunction of the micro
switch, regulator, or ECU. The first and easiest test is as follows. Go
back to the engine compartment, and with the engine turned off, operate
the
throttle spool, or have an assistant push down on the accelerator pedal,
and listen for a "click" when the accelerator is released or pressed. Let
me know the results.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / Happy Holiday's / dmcjoe@xxxxxxx
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> From: Michael Pack <mpack1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: dmcnews-digest@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: DML: High RPM at Idle
> Date: Monday, December 21, 1998 11:27 PM
>
> Dear Bruce Benson
> Thank you for your help with the fuel pump. The inertia switch fried
> itself, but now the new switch is in and everything is ok except for,
>
> I have High RMPs at idle. DMC spec is around 1000 rpm at idle. I'm
> reading 1,500 in park and neutral. In drive or reverse I'm at 1000.
>
> Why did it change? How can I reset it?
>
> Thank you again
>
> Michael Pack
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Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 11:05:24 -0500
From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: A couple of things
Difficulties shifting into reverse can usually be corrected by an
adjustment of the GEAR SHIFT CABLE and or the GEAR SHIFT TUBE. You will
find this information in ( F:07:01 ) of your Workshop Manual. Whenever
your
ignition key sticks turn the steering wheel slightly, this will take
pressure off the lock column and should allow the key to turn freely.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / Happy Holiday's / dmcjoe@xxxxxxx
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> From: Jimbo0946@xxxxxxx
> To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: DML: A couple of things
> Date: Monday, December 21, 1998 7:40 PM
>
> DMLer's,
> Has anyone ever experienced the difficulty to put the car in REVERSE
> with a
> five speed? It is usually normal when I first start the car in the
> morning,
> but sometimes after driving alittle, it takes a couple of tries. Also,
> this
> rarely happens, but sometimes (1 out of 50 times) when I put the key in
> the
> ignition, it has a VERY hard time turning. Thanks for any responds.
>
> JimmyC
> VIN#15880
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Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 11:06:11 -0500
From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: altering the Delorean
Darrin,
Actually for a period of time there were several companies offering a full
line of exterior, interior, and performance products exclusively for the
"D".
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / Happy Holiday's / dmcjoe@xxxxxxx
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> From: Darrin Nieves <d_nieves@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: DML: altering the Delorean
> Date: Monday, December 21, 1998 8:23 PM
>
> As a fellow owner of a "odd" car (RX7- not rare/just odd <rotary>) I can
> understand your wanting to keep the car stock, in terms of altering its
> exterior appearance, aren't the choices for the Delorean slim to none?
> It's not as if body moldings/air dams/redesigned front and rear bumpers
> were ever offered. I think the Delorean is beautiful but I am curious
> what would one of these beauties look like with a aftermarket make-over?
> Any pictures?
>
> Darrin
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Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 09:13:57 -0800
From: "lseiler@xxxxxxxxxxxx" <lseiler@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: The magic day
Hello to all and seasons Greetings
Well yesterday was December 21st 1998 the planned release date for the
DeLorean Limited Edition model Kit for the pre-paid reservations.
I am very happy to announce that this official release date is now valid
and should be considered the legal release date for all reservations that
were prepaid and all the remaining reservations as well.
For all pre-paid reservations the process is automatic, the reservation
is processed, payment either verified or processed. Some credit card
charges have not been run and some checks have not been deposited. Once
the reservation is processed, the reserved kit is made up and shipped.
Yes I am actually making up the kits one at a time by hand to ensure that
each and every one is complete.
For all other reservation holders the release date has been changed to
the day after I ship the last pre-paid kit, which i think will be the end
of the first week of January. From that point on reservations will only
be good for 30 days, any un executed reservations will be reassigned to
members of the waiting list. There is no grace period and no
exceptions.
For more details please check the "magic date" post on the DMC Bulletin
board -
http//:www.totalimmersion.com/dmcboard/
All the master parts dies are finished and shoo9ting kits will
start right after X-mass or as soon after as we get the assembly
instructions completed. You may find it interesting that two of our DML
members are authoring the assembly instructions.
For those of you who asked about having your kits assembled for you, I
will be asking our model maker/author if he would like to do this. You
will know who he is when the assembly instructions are posted.
I should stress that in spite of the fact that there are now 670+ DML
members on the waiting list, that if you have not asked for placement on
the list you should, several reservations have been canceled and given
the very low number of prepaid reservations It is very possible that
there will be kits left over.
All left over kits will be offered here on the DML one time then go to
QVC for sale as limited edition Historic collectibles. QVC has suggested
a price of $400+ ??
Happy holidays and cheers to all
Lee
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Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 12:28:02 -0500
From: "." <jdl@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Makeovers
I would like to see what a fiberglass rounded front facia would look =
like, you know, more rounded like a Porsche 968 or even like the last =
version of the 300ZX, with inset round or square headlights. Might give =
a more updated look. Just a thought...
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Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 14:53:21 EST
From: CBL302@xxxxxxx
Subject: DML: VIN's between 520 and 614? Anyone, anyone?
Joe,thanks for the complement,but one question that has bothered me
about my
Vin#00570,according to Delorean World Spring 1987,pg 29,my car is
supposed to
be a pre-production prototype,cars between vins,000520 and vins,614,were
supposed to be used for DOT,and EPA,and trade shows ect,and then sent
back to
the factory to be disassembled ,or destroyed,never intended to be sold to
the
public,According to the article only 40 of these cars were made and only
three
survived,mine being one of them,my question is there anybody else with
vins
between 520 and 614,March 1981,or earlier build date. Thanks
Claude
Vin#00570
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Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 15:42:36 -0800
From: Alex Krochmal <alexk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Stainless Steel
Does anyone know of any other cars that where made of stainless steel or
any other kind of metal?]
Thanks,
Alex Krochmal
Alexk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 19:16:48 -0700
From: scottmueller@xxxxxxxxx (Scott Mueller)
Subject: DML: Cruise Control
I am seriously considering installing a cruise control on my DeLorean.
I am interested inwhich brand/model that any of the list members have
installed.
What problems if any did you have with the installation and performance of
the unit.
What was the cost of the unit that you installed.
All input is appreciated.
Thanks
Scott Mueller
1981/002981 DOA-5031 DMCNEWS
Contact me about the "Deep South DeLorean Owners Club"
http://www.zebra.net/~scottmueller/Web%20Page/aaanothe.htm
Remember April 3, 1999 - Camillia Classic Car Show in Mobile Alabama
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Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 21:28:47 -0800
From: "BRUCE BENSON" <delornut@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: High RPM at Idle
>I have High RMPs at idle. DMC spec is around 1000 rpm at idle. I'm
>reading 1,500 in park and neutral. In drive or reverse I'm at 1000.
>
>Why did it change? How can I reset it?
>Michael Pack
Mike,
Make sure the throttle plates close at idle. Also be sure the idle speed
micro switch is making up when the throttle plates are in the idle
positon.
Push it down with a screw driver while the throttle plates are closed.
Have
you done anything that could have caused a vacuum leak? The fuel system
reacts to the amount of air being taken in so fast idle is caused by
something causing more air to enter the engine. The idle speed motor opens
to allow a prescribed amout of air around the closed throttle plates. If
it
is stuck in a position that allows the fast idle the only way I know of to
check it out is to borrow one from a friends DeLorean and try it. The ECU
contols the idle speed motor and could possiblty be the culprit but I
really
doubt it. More times than not, problems like this are simple things.
Bruce Benson
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Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 21:43:32 -0800
From: "BRUCE BENSON" <delornut@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: VIN's between 520 and 614? Anyone, anyone?
>Vin#00570,according to Delorean World Spring 1987,pg 29,my car is
>supposed to
>be a pre-production prototype,cars between vins,000520 and vins,614,were
>supposed to be used for DOT,and EPA,and trade shows ect,and then sent
>back to
>the factory to be disassembled ,or destroyed,never intended to be sold to
>the
>public,According to the article only 40 of these cars were made and only
>three
>survived,mine being one of them,my question is there anybody else with
>vins
>between 520 and 614,March 1981,or earlier build date. Thanks
>
>Claude
>Vin#00570
Claude,
You car was one of 88 DeLoreans leased to DeLorean Company executives and
also used for training. The company that handled this was CFR, Inc. I'm
not
sure what their role was in the DeLorean Motor Company but when they were
returned to CFR they were considered used units without warranty. The
leasing agreement with CFR specified that displosal of those cars through
auctions or any advertised ad was forbidden for six months after their
return. I'd guess DeLorean didn't want any used DeLoreans advertised until
he sold a bunch of new ones.
Bruce Benson
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Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1998 00:18:55 -0500
From: "R. Starling" <doctor280@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: Stainless Steel
A 1936 Ford coup was skinned in stainless steel by , Allegheny Ludhum to
promote the virtue of stainless as a body material.
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Date: Wed, 23 Dec 98 02:22:05 -0000
From: James Espey <espey@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: VIN's between 520 and 614? Anyone, anyone?
On 12/23/98 3:43 AM, Bruce Benson shared these fine thoughts...
>You car was one of 88 DeLoreans leased to DeLorean Company executives and
>also used for training. The company that handled this was CFR, Inc. I'm not
>sure what their role was in the DeLorean Motor Company but when they were
>returned to CFR they were considered used units without warranty. The
>leasing agreement with CFR specified that displosal of those cars through
>auctions or any advertised ad was forbidden for six months after their
>return. I'd guess DeLorean didn't want any used DeLoreans advertised until
>he sold a bunch of new ones.
One of the last times I was either at DMC(houston) or the warehouse, I
ran across a list of these cars, and who they were assigned to. By now I
do not remember who had which cars, but perhaps Leif Montin (original DMC
Parts Guru, now list lurker) might recall or have a copy of that memo.
James Espey
#10570
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