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Title: dmcnews-digest V3 #405

dmcnews-digest        Tuesday, August 25 1998        Volume 03 : Number 405



       In this issue:
        DML: Bricklin web page
        DML: Re: Re: rims, dash lights, and mags
        DML: Re: Power Antenna
        DML: Re: Re: Alternator or Battery??
        DML: Cooling Fans
        DML: new owner with electrical problems
        DML: courtesy fuse blowing
        DML: PLEASE buy my DeLorean!
        Re: DML: Re: Re: Alternator or Battery??
        DML: Re: clutch problems?
        Re: DML: Antennas
        DML: Buying a De Lorean: What to look for and too consider...
        DML: PARTS FOR SALE !
        DML: stuff that goes wrong!
        Re: DML: Dashboard all out of whack!
        DML: Insurance Help!
        DML: Re: repainting black windshield header
        DML: Delorean Model
        DML: Frame welding and cleaning stainless
        DML: Re: clutch problems?
        DML: Four Speed DeLorean
        DML: [admin] DeLorean Mailing List Shirt Designs
        Re: DML: North Carolina Insurance Help!
        Re: DML: Buying a De Lorean: What to look for and too consider...
        Re: DML: Re: clutch problems?
        DML: DXF DMC
        Re: DML: stuff that goes wrong!
        DML: Re: Insurance Help!
        Re: DML: Frame welding and cleaning stainless
        Re: DML: North Carolina Insurance Help!
        DML: Re: Insurance Help!
        DML: Rear Axle CV boots
        DML: DML Luggage Rack Installation
        DML: Radio inline fuse
        Re: DML: keys
        DML: Re: courtesy fuse blowing
        DML: Re: Dashboard all out of whack!
        Re: DML: Re: Re: Alternator or Battery??
        DML: Re: Cooling Fans
        DML: Re: new owner with electrical problems
        RE: DML: Antennas
        Re: DML: DML Luggage Rack Installation

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Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 10:50:12 +0000
From: Bob Brandys <oehcs@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Bricklin web page

The national Bricklin web page is at:

http://bricklin.shel.olsy-na.com/BI/EventCal.htm


It is run by one of the original people involved in making the car.

We have been trying to coordinate events with bricklin owners

It would be a good thing for Delorean owners to encourage this.

Bob Brandys

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Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 10:59:27 -0400
From: "Joe" <dmcjoe@xxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: Re: rims, dash lights, and mags

Chip,
Remove your shifter boot mounting plate to access the underside of your
dimmer control, place a jumper wire between the red/orange wires and the
red/white wire, your instrument lights should come on. If this works your
dimmer is N.G., if this is the case you can leave the jumper in place and
your dash lights will operate at full illumination.
Joe/DeLorean Services

- ----------
> From: chip <chip@xxxxxxxx>
> To: dmcnews-digest@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: DML: Re: rims, dash lights, and mags
> Date: Friday, August 21, 1998 2:29 AM
>
> Joe wrote:
>
>
> >Chip,
> >The power going to your clock and panel lights must go through several
> >connections on its way to its final destination. Here's the route. 12v
> >from
> >your battery goes to fuse No. 8 from there it travels to all of the
> >right
> >hand side parking lights. The feed than travels through your center
> >console
> >and stops at the panel light dimmer, from there it goes through the
> >headlight switch and the hazard switch and finally ends up at the clock.
> >Based on your description there is no power in this circuit. Here's how
> >to
> >find out; turn on your parking lights and see if the headlight switch
> >and
> >hazard switches are illuminated. You will probably want to do this in a
> >darkened area to more clearly see these lights. If these lights are off
> >you
> >have no power in the circuit; let me know what you find.
> >Joe/DeLorean Services
>
>
> Well i checked that out and yes the power going to the panel witht the
> hazard button, the air conditioning, etc. yes the lights in that part do
> work. its just the part of the dash that the speedometer and gas gauge
> is on. that is where its dark. what can i do now? thanx for your info
> and help.
>
> chip ( only 19 years old too, how special)
> vin #1230

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Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 12:19:49 -0400
From: "Joe" <dmcjoe@xxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: Power Antenna

Scott,
F.Y.I. an inexpensive rear mounted power antenna for the DeLorean is
available from Radio Shack at around $40, we have found it to be
comparable
to the original Harada. It does, however, require a slightly different
mounting from the factory set up. The factory issued an instruction sheet
on how to install the power antenna in post factory installed power
antenna
cars.
Joe/DeLorean Services

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Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 12:22:54 -0400
From: "Joe" <dmcjoe@xxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: Re: Alternator or Battery??

Call one of our DeLorean parts suppliers and they will lead you to the
Motorola or Delco replacement.
Joe/DeLorean Services----------

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Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 12:19:22 -0500
From: Thomas Bohmier <Bohmier@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Cooling Fans

Couple of questions regarding the cooling fans:

My cooling fan "fuse kit" melted. As a result, I started checking
everything after replacing the fuse, and discovered that my right
cooling fans is inoperative.

1 - What is the Bosch model number to replace the motor unit?

2 - Is there any tricks to get the six bolts and support bracket
disassembled and reassembled on the fan(s) scroud system?

3 - Do I need to disconnect the passenger side radiator feed line/hose?

Any tricks or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I searched the
DMC news database base, but found nothing. It has been 12 years since I
replaced one and the details are fuzzy in my both head and in the
manual.

Again... Who knows the Bosch part number or cross reference number and
any suggestions or tricks. My car start running hot, in traffic, in the
100 degree Dallas heat, since only one fan is fully operational.
>
I hear that there are a few owners in the Dallas/Fort Worth area who
may be on this list. I would enjoy the opportunity to hear from y'all,
participate in some of the local shows, or just get together for a drive
and or social.

Thomas W. Bohmier
Dallas,  Texas

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Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 14:01:27 -0400
From: "Cole" <highoctane@xxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: new owner with electrical problems

Hi. My name is Cole Stinnette. I am 17 years old and I just picked up my
DeLorean yesterday. It's an 81 stick-shift and has just under 20K miles on
it. I bought it at a used car lot near my home. Trouble is, they had to
order a new AC evaporator for it, and now that that's in there the battery
won't hold a charge and a lot of the electrical system is kinda screwy. My
blinkers, horn, dash lights, and interior lights are all out. It doesn't
matter if I push start it or jump it, if I try to restart the car after I
turn it off it just clicks. The voltmeter almost always shows 13 on it. I
also lost some coolant which I replaced with water. Do I just need a new
long-life battery? Maybe a battery cut-off switch? If anyone could help
me,
my email address is highoctane@xxxxxxx

Thanks

Cole
VIN 2506

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Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 14:24:40 -0600
From: Brock Williams <brock@xxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: courtesy fuse blowing

I have an '81 D stick shift.  Lately, my courtesy fuse has been blowing. 
Last
time it didn't last more than half an hour.  As far as I can tell,
everything
works when the fuse in good.  All interior lights, the door warning
lights, etc
all work fine.  Then the fuse goes and the door ajar telltale stays on. 
Also,
my alarm refuses to lock the doors because it thinks a door is open. 
Both door
switches operate properly.  Any ideas?

Brock Williams
Vin #2680

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Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 16:50:53 -0500
From: "Tim Hansen" <thansen@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: PLEASE buy my DeLorean!

I'm now accepting offers and will take the best one.  It's in really nice
shape, but I have to have it sold before college and that's four days
away!

Please help!  I want $13,500 but am taking offers...

It's an unpainted '81 with a beautiful body on it, the grey leather
interior
is presentable, the original auto-trans drivetrain is perfect with the
exception of an exhaust manifold gasket that needs repair....it's a good
car
for the money...it was a good deal at $15,000!  Now I'm desparate!

HELP!

(can provide pictures on request)

Tim Hansen
thansen@xxxxxxxxxx

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Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 19:17:17 EDT
From: CBL302@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: DML: Re: Re: Alternator or Battery??

When you say "DELCO",do you mean,that I could install a General
Motors,alternator
 in my Delorean?If so do I need a bracket,and wiring kit?Again if so who
sells
the kit?
If not what brackets do I use to line up the alternator with the
pullies,and
what about a wiring diagram,to go from Delorean to GM.

Claude
Vin#570

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Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 17:56:05 -0400
From: chip <chip@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: clutch problems?

well it worked when i got it but i took my D out for a sunday drive and
i first started noticing a problem shifting into reverse. the thing
would ALWAYS grind. then later it started grinding into other gears as
well has trouble even getting the stick to shift into the slot.  I would
think that this is a clutch problem? any ideas anybody? how much does
this cost to replace if this is the problem? thanx

chip
vin 1230

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Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 13:06:34 -1000
From: "Thomas Smithson" <tsassoc@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Antennas

Scott, do you still have a copy of this flyer around? I know it's a long
shot but thought I'd ask. Aloha, Thom Smithson VIN #3089
- -----Original Message-----
From: Scott Mueller <scottmueller@xxxxxxxxx>
To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Friday, August 21, 1998 8:14 AM
Subject: Re: DML: Antennas

(SNIP)
>
>I own vin 002981/August 81.  It came with the fixed mast on the right
>front fender.  Several months after purchasing the car in October 1981,
>we recieved a flyer that showed how to install the automatic antenna in
>the left rear fender.
>
>Scott Mueller
>

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Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 15:28:37 -0700
From: "Robert A. Rooney" <DMCVegas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Buying a De Lorean: What to look for and too consider...

In reponse to the questions that have been asked by the many people who
have considered purchasing a D(myself included). You really can't have a
specific answer for each of the questions. The one & most important
thing is to remember that no 2 cars have ever been, nor ever will be
exactly the same. There are of course the obvious(rust, over heating,
part replacement, etc.) that one can look for. But you can't just
consider those factors, the largest concern to look for in a D, or any
car for that matter is the owner. It takes 3 things to own & maintain
any car:
1. Time
2. Money
3. Passion
If any one of these is missing, your car will be more of a burdon than
it is a joy. But all three dictate the each other. How much passion you
have will determine how much time & money you put into it. But how much
time & money you put into your car is going to determine how much
maintenance will go in, and untimatly how much pleasure you will get out
of owning & driving your car. And once again all of these depend on what
kind of shape your vehicle is in. They can have problems just like any
other car, and some have truly been neglected. For example. There is a
guy here in Vegas who owns an '81. When he got the car, he was the 3'rd
owner. The car had been in storage by the first, restored & upgraded by
the second, & then sold to him. He bought it in March 1988, and in
September of 1988 the water pump went out. Money was not the issue, he
could afford to have the pump replaced. But he had no desire or passion
for the car to fix it. So ever since then his car has been sitting in
his drive way, just rotting away for the past 10 years. About the $300
for that new pump would have saved him the now $4-5,000 it would now
cost just to make the car road worthy. So in closing consider the most
important factor in owning a De Lorean, yourself. But don't stero-type
the car as a money-pit. If you love it and maintain it, it won't be! And
as far as using your car as a daily driver, then you just need to
maintain it as one. Expect a little more in maintenance for that extra
driving experience!

- -Robert

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Date: Sun, 23 Aug 98 22:17:37 PDT
From: "Brandon S. Moody" <bsmoody@xxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: PARTS FOR SALE !

I have lots of assorted USED parts that I need
to clear out of the garage.  Too many to list.
SO,  if you need something,  just send email
to
bsmoody@xxxxxxx   OR  winger2@xxxxxxxxx
include the part description and part number .
!!! In the subject line, put the word PARTS and
nothing else !!  This is important for the server to
route the message correctly.   We will then respond
to you if we have it avaiable and price.  include
your email and name in the body of the message.
We have about everything including frames/ body/
engines/ etc....

- -Brandon
bsmoody@xxxxxxx

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Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 17:58:27 -0700 (PDT)
From: illyana delorean <illyanadmc@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: stuff that goes wrong!

okay, my little dilemma is that somehow i got unsubscribed from the
list! i dont remember doing this to myself, but it did happen. for
some reason, i figured that everyone on the list was on a vacation
from their computers, so i did nothing about it and i even posted a
few messages. but, eventually i got suspicious, and i decided to check
up on my subscription status.
now that i am re-subscribed, id like to ask a favour of you all. i
posted a message about seeing an ad for a 4speed DMC in the "old car
trader" magazine, and i was curious about its validity. if anyone
actually did respond to my post, i would appreciate it if someone
could maybe sum up for me what was discussed about the 4speed DMC. i
am quite curious about it!

thanks!

<-illyana->

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Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 21:52:31 -0500
From: Thomas Bohmier <Bohmier@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Dashboard all out of whack!

Sean:

May I make a recommendation and do what I did... Take it to a DMC
facility. They
went over mine top to bottom and proactively fixed everything. Yes, you
will spend a
few dollars, but that goes with the sports car territory. Mine spent a
week with DMC
Houston. Since then two small things have cropped up... one cooling fan
"gave up the
ghost" and my speedometer died. I am sure the speedometer problem is that
famous
gear at the wheel.

Thomas Bohmier
Dallas,  Texas

Sean R. Manning wrote:

> Hi there-->
>
>         Pretty much every dial on my dashboard doesn't work right.  Of
course my
> speedometer is hosed, that's a given.  It bounces around the actual speed
> and just won't sit still.  The fuel gage is stuck at 1/2.  The tach is
> stuck at 1000rpm.  Finally, the oil pressure never goes all the way to the
> bottom, even when turned off and when the car is moving it zings up to the
> top.  I'm just looking for some free advice top point me in the right
> direction on any of these issues so that I don't have to tear up every one
> of these systems looking for the source of the problem.  Thanks a bunch.
> :)
>
> Sean Manning
> VIN#1932

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Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 06:04:57 -0700
From: Jason Perkins <jperkins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Insurance Help!

After performing days of research, I am posing this question to DMCNEWS:

After recently moving to North Carolina for job purposes, I have looked
into
classic car insurance for my D - which is now uninsured!  However it is in
storage and currently covered by the storage ins.  Due to the fact I live
in
N.C., I have found NO classic car insurance company that deals with the
N.C.
insurance laws.  All the usual classic car ins co (Hagerty..- all the ones
found in Hemmings- can't recall names) will provide Comp/Coll. however not
Liability (I hope I didn't get that backwards).  This makes it a headache
to
break the D insurance payments between 2 ins. companies- and also
expensive.
I have also found NO other insurance company that is willing to insure my
D,
around here except for Allstate.  Their premium is $700 per year w/250
deduct. (OUCH!) even with the multicar discount! 
The same old answer from Ins. companies is "Can you tell me the cars name
again?  Now what is the model again?  What company makes it?  ** do you
mean
a DeSoto?    (!#%$@#@)

If anybody knows of an ins. co. that is based out of N.C.- it does not
have
to be a classic ins. co., that will cover a D here in N.C., please let me
know.

Thanks DMCNEWS!
jperkins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

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Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 10:04:29 -0400
From: Mike Griese <magriese@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: repainting black windshield header

David - The windshield trim can be removed from the car.
Peel back the outer door seals to expose some screws.  Remove
the screws to remove the trim.  You will want to do the side pieces
as well because they will look pretty bad next to the freshly painted
header.  Clean off the old adhesive with 3M adhesive remover
before painting the trim pieces.  You might want to consider
replacing the outer door seals at this time, as long as you have
them off.  If you don't replace them, remove the old adhesive from
the door seals before putting them back on the car.  Use 3M
Weatherstrip adhesive (#8008) to reattach the door seals.

Michael A. Griese
IBM Storage Systems Division
Rochester, MN  55901
Internet: magriese@xxxxxxxxxx
voice:     (507)253-1853
fax:        (507)253-2880

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Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 10:54:58 -0400
From: "Laflotte, Duane" <dlaflott@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Delorean Model

I was wondering if there was any good model deloreans?  I have great metal
models of other cars but I was wondering if any company puts out a
delorean
one.
Thanks
Duane Laflotte

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Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 13:15:04 -0400
From: "Kemp, Nick (MN10)" <nick.kemp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Frame welding and cleaning stainless

Two thoughts:

1) When I had my frame repair, after it had bee sandblasted, the welder
commented that he was affected by the fumes resulting from welding on
the frame.  Presumably the fumes from some remaining epoxy.  Weld in a
well ventilated area with good air movement.

2) I noticed after washing my car that it still seems dirty.  I followed
up with Windex and it looks great.  So where did the dirt film com from
originally?  My conclusion is that a miniscule amount of dirt gets into
the pores of the stainless and this results in a dirty look unless you
wipe it down as I did with the Windex.

NK

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Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 12:20:15 -0400
From: Mike Substelny <SUBSTEM@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: clutch problems?

Chip, the most likely source of problems is your clutch hydraulic line. 
If
your car still has the polymer line, you should replace it with the
stainless
steel line.  This will save a lot of wear and tear on your tranny, and
keep
you from looking like a clutz.  A good DeLorean mechanic can do this job
in a few hours.

If you have already replaced the line, then this could also be a symptom
of a worn out master cylinder or slave cylinder in your clutch system.
New ones are not too expensive.  You might want to have yours tested
just to be sure.

- - Mike Substelny
VIN 1280 (close to yours!)

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Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 12:34:30 -0400
From: Mike Substelny <SUBSTEM@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Four Speed DeLorean

Illyana said:
> i posted a message about seeing an ad for a 4speed DMC in the "old
> car trader" magazine, and i was curious about its validity. if anyone
> actually did respond to my post, i would appreciate it if someone
> could maybe sum up for me what was discussed about the 4speed
> DMC.

I remember thinking when you posted the original message that it is
probably just a five speed with transmission problems.  Maybe the seller
of this car is Bill Gates, and he reclassified all its faults as
"features."

Perhaps this DeLorean also comes with "Sporty, low hanging doors" and
"Customized leather seats featuring random slit pattern" and "High tech
Ducillier power regulation system to limit electrical consumption."

Seriously, I have often mused that it should be easy to put the
transmission from an Eagle Premier into a DeLorean.  That would give
you a very reliable automatic four speed with overdrive.  I have no idea
if
this was done to the car in question.  Maybe?

- - Mike Substelny

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Date: Mon, 24 Aug 98 09:49:47 -0700
From: James Espey <espey@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: [admin] DeLorean Mailing List Shirt Designs

I have recevied a couple of new shirt design submissions, but
unfortunately they used images which had been "lifted" from other sites
on the internet. I would think that most people would realize this was a
"no-no" for obvious reasons. So...here are the (revised) design
specifications:

1 color breast or short sleeve imprint (MAXIMUM 3 inches wide x 2 inches
tall)

Up to 4 color back (MAXIMUM 11 inches wide by 14 inches tall)

Line drawing or halftone/four color process (DO NOT use images lifted
from the internet unless you can supply written permission from the
original owner of the image their authorization to use it for this
purpose)

Preferred in digital format, at least 150dpi resolution for raster or
continous tone art.

Must show these items:

1) DeLorean sports car
2) the text "DeLorean Mailing List"
3) the text "www.dmcnews.com"
4) the text "Keeping the Dream Alive'

Deadline for entries in September 15, 1998. Send a LOW-RES (72dpi, GIF or
JPEG) copy of your design to:

tshirt@xxxxxxxxxxx

Thanks!

James Espey
YOU pick the new DeLorean Mailing List T-Shirt Design!
http://www.dmcnews.com/shirt.html

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Date: Mon, 24 Aug 98 09:25:13 -0700
From: James Espey <espey@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: North Carolina Insurance Help!

On 8/24/98 6:05 AM, Jason Perkins shared these fine thoughts...

>After performing days of research, I am posing this question to DMCNEWS:
>
>After recently moving to North Carolina for job purposes, I have looked into
>classic car insurance for my D - which is now uninsured!  However it is in
>storage and currently covered by the storage ins.  Due to the fact I live in
>N.C., I have found NO classic car insurance company that deals with the N.C.
(SNIP)
>
>If anybody knows of an ins. co. that is based out of N.C.- it does not have
>to be a classic ins. co., that will cover a D here in N.C., please let me
>know.

There are eight North Carolina DeLorean owners listed in the latest
edition of the DeLorean Owners Directory. This is just one reason why the
DODwas created, so owners could contact other owners in their areas to
solve problems, socialize and simply promote communication.

Which car maker had the slogan "Ask the man who owns one"?

35 owners in Illinois
34 owners in California
25 owners in New Jersey
28 owners in Ohio
69 owners in Washington
28 owners in Georgia

To register for the DeLorean Owners Directory, point your browser to:

http://www.dmcnews.com/directory.html

or send mail to "directory@xxxxxxxxxxx" with the text "SEND FORM" in the
subject.

James Espey
Moderator, DeLorean Mailing List
http://www.dmcnews.com

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Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 12:44:45 EDT
From: JSteuben@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: DML: Buying a De Lorean: What to look for and too consider...

Bravo, Well said!   Best regards, Joe

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Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 11:47:40 -0500
From: scottmueller@xxxxxxxxx (Scott Mueller)
Subject: Re: DML: Re: clutch problems?

chip wrote:
>
> well it worked when i got it but i took my D out for a sunday drive and
> i first started noticing a problem shifting into reverse. the thing
> would ALWAYS grind. then later it started grinding into other gears as
> well has trouble even getting the stick to shift into the slot.  I would
> think that this is a clutch problem? any ideas anybody? how much does
> this cost to replace if this is the problem? thanx
>
> chip
> vin 1230


Chip, Check and see if you have the steel braided clutch line, if it is
the plastic one, then replace it.

Scott

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Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 10:31:17 -0600
From: "Gremlin" <gremlin@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: DXF DMC

I've forgotten who it was now [sorry] but someone on the list was working
on
a CG/autocad version of a DeLorean.  I do a lot of CG animation and began
building a virtual 1981 5-speed, which I lost in a drivecrash.

If whoever was building the dxf would like some help, I should have just
enough free time to add a few virtual parts to it, if you'd care to send
it
to me.

- --Gremlin
admin@xxxxxxxxxxx
http://gremlin.net

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Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 12:29:14 -0400
From: Marc A Levy <malevy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: stuff that goes wrong!

May want to check the back issues....  But the few comments that were
made were that no one knew of a 4 speed auto DMC, other than the ones
that have been modified with the Porche unit.

I suspect they just made a mistake.


illyana delorean wrote:
>
(SNIP)
> now that i am re-subscribed, id like to ask a favour of you all. i
> posted a message about seeing an ad for a 4speed DMC in the "old car
> trader" magazine, and i was curious about its validity. if anyone
> actually did respond to my post, i would appreciate it if someone
> could maybe sum up for me what was discussed about the 4speed DMC. i
> am quite curious about it!
>
> thanks!
>
> <-illyana->

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Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 13:28:00 -0400
From: "R. Starling" <doctor280@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: Insurance Help!

This is not an ad for Nationwide, but here in North Carolina you can call
my
agent, Johnny A Morgan. He is based in Winston-Salem and he has quoted a
fair price, I think for insurance for the D. He can do it under a stated
value policy. (explained in my earlier post) When you call him make sure
that you speak to him, because he is the only person in the office that
really understands how to do it. Johnny's phone number is (336)721-9054
- -----Original Message-----
From: Jason Perkins <jperkins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: 'dmcnews' <dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Monday, August 24, 1998 12:15 PM
Subject: DML: Insurance Help!


>After performing days of research, I am posing this question to DMCNEWS:
>
>After recently moving to North Carolina for job purposes, I have looked
>into
>classic car insurance for my D - which is now uninsured!  However it is in
>storage and currently covered by the storage ins.  Due to the fact I live
>in
>N.C., I have found NO classic car insurance company that deals with the
>N.C.
>insurance laws.  All the usual classic car ins co (Hagerty..- all the ones
>found in Hemmings- can't recall names) will provide Comp/Coll. however not
>Liability (I hope I didn't get that backwards).  This makes it a headache
>to
>break the D insurance payments between 2 ins. companies- and also
>expensive.
>I have also found NO other insurance company that is willing to insure my
>D,
>around here except for Allstate.  Their premium is $700 per year w/250
>deduct. (OUCH!) even with the multicar discount!
>The same old answer from Ins. companies is "Can you tell me the cars name
>again?  Now what is the model again?  What company makes it?  ** do you
>mean
>a DeSoto?    (!#%$@#@)
>
>If anybody knows of an ins. co. that is based out of N.C.- it does not
>have
>to be a classic ins. co., that will cover a D here in N.C., please let me
>know.
>
>Thanks DMCNEWS!
>jperkins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

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Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 11:59:32 -0700
From: raddad@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: DML: Frame welding and cleaning stainless

I'm glad to see that someon else has discovered the windex approach to
cleaning.  Whenever I wash my D, I remove most of the water on it so that
it won't spot, but I don't make any attempt to get it completely dry. 
Then
I go over it with Windex - or a comparable product -  and dry it with
paper
towels.  The results are far superior to simply washing it.

I suspect that part of what you are removing with the Windex is any
residual soap or detergent.  Having cleaned your D wthis way, always keep
the Windex and paper towels in the trunk to quickly and easily remove
fingerprints or other spots that may appear.

Dick Ryan

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Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 12:02:40 -0700
From: raddad@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: DML: North Carolina Insurance Help!

>Which car maker had the slogan "Ask the man who owns one"?


PACKARD - and they too bit the dust!!

The Rad Dad

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Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 13:28:00 -0400
From: "R. Starling" <doctor280@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: Insurance Help!

This is not an ad for Nationwide, but here in North Carolina you can call
my
agent, Johnny A Morgan. He is based in Winston-Salem and he has quoted a
fair price, I think for insurance for the D. He can do it under a stated
value policy. (explained in my earlier post) When you call him make sure
that you speak to him, because he is the only person in the office that
really understands how to do it. Johnny's phone number is (336)721-9054

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Date: Mon, 24 Aug 98 20:59:22 -0000
From: David Swingle <dswingle@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Rear Axle CV boots

I don't recall seing anything posted on this - has anyone replaced the
rear axle CV joint boots? Not on my car, but someone in the area has the
two outer boots starting to split.

It looks like it should be relatively simple, but the parts manual only
lists a replacement of the whole axle and $500+ each. I suspect that the
factory thinking has the boots and the CV joints wearing out at the same
time, but most of these cars have mor age than miles on them leading to
splitting of the rubber boots from age.

Dave Swingle
81 VIN 5429
DOA, DMC, DMC(Midwest)

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 23:03:32 +0000
From: kenm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: DML: DML Luggage Rack Installation

Greetings

I finally got the nerve to take a drill to my car and install the
luggage rack I bought when I was back at the Cincinnati show. I think
the instructions that came with the rack are junk. Now I have an 82
car so perhaps it's just that there was a lot of changes between the
81's and the 82's but the template on the instructions doesn't match
my car in the least. It calls to align the template with the mounting
rivets for the louver struts, which there are none. And if the
template is aligned with the holes in the edges of the strut mounts
the rack ends up 3/4 inch too far up on the car and the lovuers would
jam against the rack mounts. So has anyone else ran into this? I was
able to properly mount the rack. It's a great addition and I really
reccomend getting one.

So before I finish the installation I also wonder if anyone has come
up with a clever way to reinstall the rubber stops in such a way as
to hide the luggage rack clips.. like the drawing shows. If you were
to cut the stops like the drawing, the clips wouldn't lock into place
to install the rack. The only way I've seen it done is to cut the
stop into sections around the mounts.

Thanks in advance and see you in LA!

- -------------------------------------------------------
Ken Montgomery    My DeLorean VIN #10911
Sacramento, CA   
kenm@xxxxxxxx     "When the wind gets under these wings
Operating           You will feel what freedom brings"
Systems Analyst        From 'On-Air' Alan Parsons
(916) 278-7646   
http://www.jps.net/arkham/delorean01.htm
- -------------------------------------------------------

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Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 13:05:44 -0700 (PDT)
From: Sean Manning <mannings@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Radio inline fuse

Hi all-->

        I have an original Craig radio in my car.  Even thought it sounds
like a tin can I'm into keeping things original.  Unfortunalty it won't
remember what station it was on or any of the presets after you've turned
the engin off.  The wiring diagram shows that two power lines are
connected to it:  one that is hooked to the ignition switch and the other
is hooked straight to the power supply all the time via an inline fuse.  I
suspected that the fuse had blown and the absense of constant power to the
radio was the problem (sounds logical, doesn't it? :P )  Well, when I got
the radio out there was a little pink wire with a connection on it that
looked like it might accept a small fuse.  But when I looked in the hole
in the console I couldn't find a corresponding wire/connection.  (This
obviously would result in the same symptom.)  So I'm
wondering should the wire I'm looking fore be part of the same tap off the
main wire bundle that the radio's wire harness is part of or should it be
somewhere else?  The exploded parts diagram doesn't seem to get down to
this level of detail.  I've looked all over in there but I can't seem to
find it so I'm hoping someone knows the general area of where it should be
located so I don't have to pull the whole console out.  Thanks a bunch. :)

Sean Manning
VIN#1932
(considering license plate: FUTRBOY)

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 15:28:42 EDT
From: KayoOng@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: DML: keys

Mr. Seiler,

These are key blanks not of DMC manufacturer.  They are after market to
fit
Volvo and other vehicles.  They work great, with no modifications.  They
are
less then $3.00 ($2.75???) for the flat one, about $3.50 for the black
handle
one?  In either way it is a bargain for me -- just for the availability
and
cut too. 

In this great city of NY they should have everything.  I have searched and
searched for a key blank for the DeLorean and I could not find one.  I
just
happen to walk into a community hardware store near Chinatown where I
park my
cars (I wanted to harass them for fun of it, foolish that I am), guess
what?
They had it, and more.  More you may ask???  They also got me key blanks
for
my Bentley (or Rolls Royce), which is non existing.  They are only
available
from the RROC or the manufacturers-distributors at a "cheap" price of an
arm
and a half of a leg -- key blanks $15.00.  From this local distributor? 
$2.75
plus a little "handy" scoring to make the relief bigger on the blank to
fit RR
standard cylinders as designed by the Yale lock company (they had to be
different to get their prices).   

Now I humble myself one more time.  Don't under estimate the "little"
stores.
I should know better, that is how I use to build up my other businesses.
Store the unusual items and go out of the way to get the customers what
they
needed as long it is available from a supply source.

Anyway, If I can be of help, please let me know.

Kayo

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 03:27:33 -0400
From: "Joe" <dmcjoe@xxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: courtesy fuse blowing

Brock,
What size fuse are you using.
Joe/DeLorean Services

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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 03:05:35 -0400
From: "Joe" <dmcjoe@xxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: Dashboard all out of whack!

Sean,
Speedometer; You either have a loose dust shield (plastic cap that your
angle drive plugs into) or a binding angle drive.
Tach: You either have a bad tach feed wire or the gauge is N.G.
Fuel Gauge: You have a defective tank sender, replace it with the
Tankzilla
from P.J. Grady.
Oil Pressure: This gauge acts erratically in most DeLoreans.
Joe/DeLorean Services 

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 03:17:19 -0400
From: "Joe" <dmcjoe@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Re: Re: Alternator or Battery??

Claude.
Yes, the GM Delco 100 amp # 7295-12 (Cadallic late 80's) will fit with the
addition of a longer adjusting arm or universal type. No wiring
modification is required just cut off the existing Ducillier connector and
only use the brown/yellow wire to B+, cut the brown wire back and cap or
tape it. Neither the Delco nor the Motorola use the brown wire.
Joe/DeLorean Services

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 03:52:06 -0400
From: "Joe" <dmcjoe@xxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: Cooling Fans

Thomas,
Fuses melting in your cooling fan circuit is not unusual, the cooling fans
draw a lot of current, any loose or dirty connection will cause melting in
this circuit. Before you purchase another fan motor be sure that your
current one is actually bad. If you need to purchase a replacement get one
from one of our DeLorean part suppliers. If you take this route let me
know
and I'll tell the easiest way to make the change.
Joe/DeLorean Services

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 03:40:52 -0400
From: "Joe" <dmcjoe@xxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: new owner with electrical problems

Cole,
First check all of your fuses, once you have done that slide under the car
and check the name on the alternator, if it says Ducillier get rid of it
and replace it with a Motorola or Delco. A more accurate test is to get a
hold of a voltmeter and connect it between your battery terminals or
between the "jump start post" and ground, the reading with the engine off
will be around 12V. Start the engine, the voltage should read between 13
and 14V, if the voltage drops your alternator is probably N.G.
Joe/DeLorean Services

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 06:23:32 -0400
From: Cirillo Ronald A NUWCDIVNPT <CirilloRA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: DML: Antennas

Just one quick comment about antennas before this thread ends.  I have
vin # 768 and have had it since 1984.  I have both antennas.  The one in
the windshield is not used but the power antenna in the rear is.

Ron

> ----------
> From:         JSteuben@xxxxxxx[SMTP:JSteuben@xxxxxxx]
> Reply To:     dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent:         Friday, August 21, 1998 3:26 PM
> To:   dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject:      Re: DML: Antennas
>
> Dan is right.  I have vin #1273 and have the windshield embedded antenna. I
> understand that JZD earned his wings at Pontiac partually by coming up
> with that idea.  Its nice not screwing up the lines of the car with an
> antenna. Too bad it doesn't have more poop. 
>
> Hey, welcome back raddad.  How about a few word regarding you adventure? 
> Best regards, Joe

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 06:44:18 -0500
From: scottmueller@xxxxxxxxx (Scott Mueller)
Subject: Re: DML: DML Luggage Rack Installation

kenm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>
> Greetings
>
> I finally got the nerve to take a drill to my car and install the
> luggage rack I bought when I was back at the Cincinnati show. I think
> the instructions that came with the rack are junk. Now I have an 82
> car so perhaps it's just that there was a lot of changes between the
> 81's and the 82's but the template on the instructions doesn't match
> my car in the least. It calls to align the template with the mounting
> rivets for the louver struts, which there are none. And if the
> template is aligned with the holes in the edges of the strut mounts
> the rack ends up 3/4 inch too far up on the car and the lovuers would
> jam against the rack mounts. So has anyone else ran into this? I was
> able to properly mount the rack. It's a great addition and I really
> reccomend getting one.
>
> So before I finish the installation I also wonder if anyone has come
> up with a clever way to reinstall the rubber stops in such a way as
> to hide the luggage rack clips.. like the drawing shows. If you were
> to cut the stops like the drawing, the clips wouldn't lock into place
> to install the rack. The only way I've seen it done is to cut the
> stop into sections around the mounts.
>
> Thanks in advance and see you in LA!
>
> -------------------------------------------------------
> Ken Montgomery    My DeLorean VIN #10911



Ken, I had the same problem mounting my rack on my Aug 1981 car.  There
were no rivets.  I assembled the rack and set it on the car in the
approximate location.  Marked and drilled the body.  I also pieced the
weatherstrip around the clips.  The clips do not have to "snap" into
place, the rack will hold them when fastened.  I agree, the instructions
are a bit nebulus.

Scott Mueller

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