Jack Stiefel wrote: > Ok imagine you're laying in bed and are looking at a web page on > portrait mode. Now you want landscape, just tilt the phone > perpendicular to the Earth and spin it. It will transition to > landscape. Now lean it back and enjoy the new view. It is easier > than it sounds. Right. Sounds obnoxious. That was my original point. > Spinning it on a table does nothing as the unit is flat to the Earth. Flat to the earth, yes. But the phone doesn't detect "earth", it detects force, and spinning it around the z-axis will generate force along both the y- and the x- axis in both directions, out from the center. > I'm at Disney with the kids and my mind hurts LOL, forgive me. My condolences. :) Regards, Jon Heese > Jack Stiefel Stiefel Aluminum > > On Jul 2, 2007, at 6:47 PM, "Jon Heese" <dmcforum@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote: > > Jack Stiefel wrote: >> Apple has licensed exchange. Its already an option when setting up >> email, just not push yet. That's whats due out very soon from what >> I've been told. > > Interesting. That's news to me, but good for them. > >> I've used mine laying down in bed. What happens is it stays in >> portrait until you tilt it round and make it straight, then it >> changes and as long as toy don't turn I'd back straight and lean it >> back straight it won't change... God I sound stupid, but you get >> the gist. Also spinning it on a table does nothing as the unit is >> laying down not perpendicular to the ground... Does any of this >> make sense? > > Kind of, but either you missed the point of what I was saying and I'm > not getting your response.. > > It must use a sensor that "feels" gravity in the x- and y-axes of the > phone. When you turn it like a PSP, it "feels" gravity pulling along > the short axis, and turns the orientation. Likewise, when you turn > it up like a phone, it "feels" gravity pulling along the long axis > and turns the orientation appropriately. My question is: What if > gravity is pulling along the z-axis, i.e. you're laying the phone > flat on like a table, or over your head pointed down at you? > > It sounds like you're saying it just keeps the last known > orientation. If so, that's exactly why I think it's a flawed feature. > Good to impress co-workers, but of limited use if you tend to hold > your cell phone flat when looking at it (as I do). > > My idea of spinning it flat on a table was to get the accelerometers > that are designed to "feel" gravity to go wacky and freak out the > programming that determines which way gravity is pulling. I suppose > that spinning it like that would fire the sensors for both the x- and > y-axes, and I suppose they would tell it to do nothing when that > happens. > > Regards, Jon Heese > >> Jack Stiefel Stiefel Aluminum >> >> On Jul 2, 2007, at 5:55 PM, "Jon Heese" <dmcforum@xxxxxxxxxxxx> >> wrote: >> >> The one thing I thought was sort of a gimmicky feature, from the >> commercial was the tilt sensor that changes the orientation of the >> screen when you turn it from landscape to portrait and vice >> versa... >> >> What if you have it laying flat on its back? Which way does it >> orient itself? It can't possibly know which way I'm looking at it, >> can it? >> >> Then I started wondering what it would do if you spin it like a top >> on its back, like on a smooth table or something?... Will the tilt >> sensor go crazy? I'd like to see that. >> >> On the topic of the Exchange Direct Push stuff: Are there plans to >> support this eventually? As far as I know, this is not open >> technology, and I would be surprised if Microsoft would license the >> API to Apple so they can use it to try and take the PDA tech >> market away from them. >> >> Regards, Jon Heese >> >> Jack Stiefel wrote: >>> So far I have been very impressed. The only thing I really want >>> is the exchange push and sync. I have had every PDA Verizon and >>> at&t sell and have had lackluster results until now. The ipod >>> part is great as is the visual voicemail and the use of the >>> finger for resizing web sites and pictures. It is cool to just >>> choose a message and hear it, no logging in or listening to >>> prerecorded voice prompts. I also enjoy full HTML email support >>> and while the exchange sync is not there YET, yahoo emails push >>> in just fine. >>> >>> The camera takes very good pics, I'm very impressed. >>> >>> The phone reacts just like on the ads, no trick photography >>> there. >>> >>> I've been reading tons of posts and there are some updates coming >>> down the pike that will make this more of a business phone. >>> >>> Jack Stiefel Stiefel Aluminum >>> >>> On Jul 2, 2007, at 5:04 PM, "Dave Stragand" >>> <dave.stragand@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> >>> No problem. I, like everyone else, have heard a LOT of hype about >>> those. Is it true they allow you to place calls to the dead? And >>> is there really a built-in AED unit? =))) >>> >>> Want to tell us all your first impressions? >>> >>> -Dave >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> >>> From: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] >>> On Behalf Of Jack Stiefel Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 4:54 PM To: >>> DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [DMCForum] Test email >>> >>> I didst even notice that. Sorry that's removed now >>> >>> Jack Stiefel Stiefel Aluminum >>> >>> On Jul 2, 2007, at 4:21 PM, "Dave Stragand" >>> <dave.stragand@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> <mailto:dave.stragand%40forwardlook.net> >>>> wrote: >>> "Sent from my iPhone"? >>> >>> Sheesh. =))) >>> >>> -Dave >>> >>> Sent from my computer. >>> >>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>> >>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Yahoo! 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