Ok imagine you're laying in bed and are looking at a web page on portrait mode. Now you want landscape, just tilt the phone perpendicular to the Earth and spin it. It will transition to landscape. Now lean it back and enjoy the new view. It is easier than it sounds. Spinning it on a table does nothing as the unit is flat to the Earth. I'm at Disney with the kids and my mind hurts LOL, forgive me. Jack Stiefel Stiefel Aluminum On Jul 2, 2007, at 6:47 PM, "Jon Heese" <dmcforum@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Jack Stiefel wrote: > Apple has licensed exchange. Its already an option when setting up > email, just not push yet. That's whats due out very soon from what > I've been told. Interesting. That's news to me, but good for them. > I've used mine laying down in bed. What happens is it stays in > portrait until you tilt it round and make it straight, then it > changes and as long as toy don't turn I'd back straight and lean it > back straight it won't change... God I sound stupid, but you get the > gist. Also spinning it on a table does nothing as the unit is laying > down not perpendicular to the ground... Does any of this make sense? Kind of, but either you missed the point of what I was saying and I'm not getting your response.. It must use a sensor that "feels" gravity in the x- and y-axes of the phone. When you turn it like a PSP, it "feels" gravity pulling along the short axis, and turns the orientation. Likewise, when you turn it up like a phone, it "feels" gravity pulling along the long axis and turns the orientation appropriately. My question is: What if gravity is pulling along the z-axis, i.e. you're laying the phone flat on like a table, or over your head pointed down at you? It sounds like you're saying it just keeps the last known orientation. If so, that's exactly why I think it's a flawed feature. Good to impress co-workers, but of limited use if you tend to hold your cell phone flat when looking at it (as I do). My idea of spinning it flat on a table was to get the accelerometers that are designed to "feel" gravity to go wacky and freak out the programming that determines which way gravity is pulling. I suppose that spinning it like that would fire the sensors for both the x- and y-axes, and I suppose they would tell it to do nothing when that happens. Regards, Jon Heese > Jack Stiefel Stiefel Aluminum > > On Jul 2, 2007, at 5:55 PM, "Jon Heese" <dmcforum@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote: > > The one thing I thought was sort of a gimmicky feature, from the > commercial was the tilt sensor that changes the orientation of the > screen when you turn it from landscape to portrait and vice versa... > > What if you have it laying flat on its back? Which way does it orient > itself? It can't possibly know which way I'm looking at it, can it? > > Then I started wondering what it would do if you spin it like a top > on its back, like on a smooth table or something?... Will the tilt > sensor go crazy? I'd like to see that. > > On the topic of the Exchange Direct Push stuff: Are there plans to > support this eventually? As far as I know, this is not open > technology, and I would be surprised if Microsoft would license the > API to Apple so they can use it to try and take the PDA tech market > away from them. > > Regards, Jon Heese > > Jack Stiefel wrote: >> So far I have been very impressed. The only thing I really want is >> the exchange push and sync. I have had every PDA Verizon and at&t >> sell and have had lackluster results until now. The ipod part is >> great as is the visual voicemail and the use of the finger for >> resizing web sites and pictures. It is cool to just choose a >> message and hear it, no logging in or listening to prerecorded >> voice prompts. I also enjoy full HTML email support and while the >> exchange sync is not there YET, yahoo emails push in just fine. >> >> The camera takes very good pics, I'm very impressed. >> >> The phone reacts just like on the ads, no trick photography there. >> >> I've been reading tons of posts and there are some updates coming >> down the pike that will make this more of a business phone. >> >> Jack Stiefel Stiefel Aluminum >> >> On Jul 2, 2007, at 5:04 PM, "Dave Stragand" >> <dave.stragand@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> No problem. I, like everyone else, have heard a LOT of hype about >> those. Is it true they allow you to place calls to the dead? And is >> there really a built-in AED unit? =))) >> >> Want to tell us all your first impressions? >> >> -Dave >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On >> Behalf Of Jack Stiefel Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 4:54 PM To: >> DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [DMCForum] Test email >> >> I didst even notice that. Sorry that's removed now >> >> Jack Stiefel Stiefel Aluminum >> >> On Jul 2, 2007, at 4:21 PM, "Dave Stragand" >> <dave.stragand@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> <mailto:dave.stragand%40forwardlook.net> >>> wrote: >> "Sent from my iPhone"? >> >> Sheesh. =))) >> >> -Dave >> >> Sent from my computer. >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> >> >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> >> >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! 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