Jack Stiefel wrote: > Apple has licensed exchange. Its already an option when setting up > email, just not push yet. That's whats due out very soon from what > I've been told. Interesting. That's news to me, but good for them. > I've used mine laying down in bed. What happens is it stays in > portrait until you tilt it round and make it straight, then it > changes and as long as toy don't turn I'd back straight and lean it > back straight it won't change... God I sound stupid, but you get the > gist. Also spinning it on a table does nothing as the unit is laying > down not perpendicular to the ground... Does any of this make sense? Kind of, but either you missed the point of what I was saying and I'm not getting your response.. It must use a sensor that "feels" gravity in the x- and y-axes of the phone. When you turn it like a PSP, it "feels" gravity pulling along the short axis, and turns the orientation. Likewise, when you turn it up like a phone, it "feels" gravity pulling along the long axis and turns the orientation appropriately. My question is: What if gravity is pulling along the z-axis, i.e. you're laying the phone flat on like a table, or over your head pointed down at you? It sounds like you're saying it just keeps the last known orientation. If so, that's exactly why I think it's a flawed feature. Good to impress co-workers, but of limited use if you tend to hold your cell phone flat when looking at it (as I do). My idea of spinning it flat on a table was to get the accelerometers that are designed to "feel" gravity to go wacky and freak out the programming that determines which way gravity is pulling. I suppose that spinning it like that would fire the sensors for both the x- and y-axes, and I suppose they would tell it to do nothing when that happens. Regards, Jon Heese > Jack Stiefel Stiefel Aluminum > > On Jul 2, 2007, at 5:55 PM, "Jon Heese" <dmcforum@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote: > > The one thing I thought was sort of a gimmicky feature, from the > commercial was the tilt sensor that changes the orientation of the > screen when you turn it from landscape to portrait and vice versa... > > What if you have it laying flat on its back? Which way does it orient > itself? It can't possibly know which way I'm looking at it, can it? > > Then I started wondering what it would do if you spin it like a top > on its back, like on a smooth table or something?... Will the tilt > sensor go crazy? I'd like to see that. > > On the topic of the Exchange Direct Push stuff: Are there plans to > support this eventually? As far as I know, this is not open > technology, and I would be surprised if Microsoft would license the > API to Apple so they can use it to try and take the PDA tech market > away from them. > > Regards, Jon Heese > > Jack Stiefel wrote: >> So far I have been very impressed. The only thing I really want is >> the exchange push and sync. I have had every PDA Verizon and at&t >> sell and have had lackluster results until now. The ipod part is >> great as is the visual voicemail and the use of the finger for >> resizing web sites and pictures. It is cool to just choose a >> message and hear it, no logging in or listening to prerecorded >> voice prompts. I also enjoy full HTML email support and while the >> exchange sync is not there YET, yahoo emails push in just fine. >> >> The camera takes very good pics, I'm very impressed. >> >> The phone reacts just like on the ads, no trick photography there. >> >> I've been reading tons of posts and there are some updates coming >> down the pike that will make this more of a business phone. >> >> Jack Stiefel Stiefel Aluminum >> >> On Jul 2, 2007, at 5:04 PM, "Dave Stragand" >> <dave.stragand@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> No problem. I, like everyone else, have heard a LOT of hype about >> those. Is it true they allow you to place calls to the dead? And is >> there really a built-in AED unit? =))) >> >> Want to tell us all your first impressions? >> >> -Dave >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On >> Behalf Of Jack Stiefel Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 4:54 PM To: >> DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [DMCForum] Test email >> >> I didst even notice that. Sorry that's removed now >> >> Jack Stiefel Stiefel Aluminum >> >> On Jul 2, 2007, at 4:21 PM, "Dave Stragand" >> <dave.stragand@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> <mailto:dave.stragand%40forwardlook.net> >>> wrote: >> "Sent from my iPhone"? >> >> Sheesh. =))) >> >> -Dave >> >> Sent from my computer. >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> >> >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> >> >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! 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