I don't know what to tell you. The accelorameter only works when the phone is perpendictular to the ground, like Jack said. I'm not totally sure how it works, but I can tell you what the results are. --- Jon Heese <dmcforum@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Jack Stiefel wrote: > > Ok imagine you're laying in bed and are looking at > a web page on > > portrait mode. Now you want landscape, just tilt > the phone > > perpendicular to the Earth and spin it. It will > transition to > > landscape. Now lean it back and enjoy the new > view. It is easier > > than it sounds. > > Right. Sounds obnoxious. That was my original > point. > > > Spinning it on a table does nothing as the unit is > flat to the Earth. > > Flat to the earth, yes. But the phone doesn't > detect "earth", it > detects force, and spinning it around the z-axis > will generate force > along both the y- and the x- axis in both > directions, out from the center. > > > I'm at Disney with the kids and my mind hurts LOL, > forgive me. > > My condolences. :) > > Regards, > Jon Heese > > > Jack Stiefel Stiefel Aluminum > > > > On Jul 2, 2007, at 6:47 PM, "Jon Heese" > <dmcforum@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > > wrote: > > > > Jack Stiefel wrote: > >> Apple has licensed exchange. Its already an > option when setting up > >> email, just not push yet. That's whats due out > very soon from what > >> I've been told. > > > > Interesting. That's news to me, but good for them. > > > >> I've used mine laying down in bed. What happens > is it stays in > >> portrait until you tilt it round and make it > straight, then it > >> changes and as long as toy don't turn I'd back > straight and lean it > >> back straight it won't change... God I sound > stupid, but you get > >> the gist. Also spinning it on a table does > nothing as the unit is > >> laying down not perpendicular to the ground... > Does any of this > >> make sense? > > > > Kind of, but either you missed the point of what I > was saying and I'm > > not getting your response.. > > > > It must use a sensor that "feels" gravity in the > x- and y-axes of the > > phone. When you turn it like a PSP, it "feels" > gravity pulling along > > the short axis, and turns the orientation. > Likewise, when you turn > > it up like a phone, it "feels" gravity pulling > along the long axis > > and turns the orientation appropriately. My > question is: What if > > gravity is pulling along the z-axis, i.e. you're > laying the phone > > flat on like a table, or over your head pointed > down at you? > > > > It sounds like you're saying it just keeps the > last known > > orientation. If so, that's exactly why I think > it's a flawed feature. > > Good to impress co-workers, but of limited use if > you tend to hold > > your cell phone flat when looking at it (as I do). > > > > My idea of spinning it flat on a table was to get > the accelerometers > > that are designed to "feel" gravity to go wacky > and freak out the > > programming that determines which way gravity is > pulling. I suppose > > that spinning it like that would fire the sensors > for both the x- and > > y-axes, and I suppose they would tell it to do > nothing when that > > happens. > > > > Regards, Jon Heese > > > >> Jack Stiefel Stiefel Aluminum > >> > >> On Jul 2, 2007, at 5:55 PM, "Jon Heese" > <dmcforum@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> wrote: > >> > >> The one thing I thought was sort of a gimmicky > feature, from the > >> commercial was the tilt sensor that changes the > orientation of the > >> screen when you turn it from landscape to > portrait and vice > >> versa... > >> > >> What if you have it laying flat on its back? > Which way does it > >> orient itself? It can't possibly know which way > I'm looking at it, > >> can it? > >> > >> Then I started wondering what it would do if you > spin it like a top > >> on its back, like on a smooth table or > something?... Will the tilt > >> sensor go crazy? I'd like to see that. > >> > >> On the topic of the Exchange Direct Push stuff: > Are there plans to > >> support this eventually? As far as I know, this > is not open > >> technology, and I would be surprised if Microsoft > would license the > >> API to Apple so they can use it to try and take > the PDA tech > >> market away from them. > >> > >> Regards, Jon Heese > >> > >> Jack Stiefel wrote: > >>> So far I have been very impressed. The only > thing I really want > >>> is the exchange push and sync. I have had every > PDA Verizon and > >>> at&t sell and have had lackluster results until > now. The ipod > >>> part is great as is the visual voicemail and the > use of the > >>> finger for resizing web sites and pictures. It > is cool to just > >>> choose a message and hear it, no logging in or > listening to > >>> prerecorded voice prompts. I also enjoy full > HTML email support > >>> and while the exchange sync is not there YET, > yahoo emails push > >>> in just fine. > >>> > >>> The camera takes very good pics, I'm very > impressed. > >>> > >>> The phone reacts just like on the ads, no trick > photography > >>> there. > >>> > >>> I've been reading tons of posts and there are > some updates coming > >>> down the pike that will make this more of a > business phone. > >>> > >>> Jack Stiefel Stiefel Aluminum > >>> > >>> On Jul 2, 2007, at 5:04 PM, "Dave Stragand" > >>> <dave.stragand@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >>> > >>> No problem. I, like everyone else, have heard a > LOT of hype about > >>> those. Is it true they allow you to place calls > to the dead? And > >>> is there really a built-in AED unit? =))) > >>> > >>> Want to tell us all your first impressions? > >>> > >>> -Dave > >>> > >>> ________________________________ > >>> > >>> From: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] > >>> On Behalf Of Jack Stiefel Sent: Monday, July 02, > 2007 4:54 PM To: > >>> DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: > [DMCForum] Test email > >>> > >>> I didst even notice that. Sorry that's removed > now > >>> > >>> Jack Stiefel Stiefel Aluminum > >>> > >>> On Jul 2, 2007, at 4:21 PM, "Dave Stragand" > === message truncated === ____________________________________________________________________________________ Get the Yahoo! toolbar and be alerted to new email wherever you're surfing. http://new.toolbar.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/index.php Yahoo! 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