For what it's worth: When I learned of the strut bar (from the DMC Talk web site) I was skeptical as many were regarding the benefits. After reading so many positive reviews, I figured it was worth a shot. I asked Rob if he would order one and install the bar on my '81 DMC (with a slightly lowered suspension). Out of the box, there was such a noticed improvement with the bar, that I asked Rob to order another on for my '83. The '83 has the Eibach suspension kit upgrade that I was (and still am) having problems with (banging noises and shock coil vibrations against the frame when hard stopping and encountering dips in the road). I thought that this would help that problem, as well 'tighten up' the front of the car. Unfortunately, it did not help my Eibach debacle, but, like the '81, it tightened up the front end dramatically. IMHO, both cars now handle much better than they did without the bar. I highly recommend them to anyone wishing to have a tighter feel to their car(s). Installation seems easy enough; though I did ask Rob to install them for me. Access to the spare tire can be a bit of a hassle, but the benefit(s) are worth it. As an inexpensive upgrade, I believe I made the right decision. Another DML'er and good friend of mine drove the '83 before and after the install and noticed a much better feel with the bar. His '83 is very nice, low mileage and stock (read: original suspension). On the same road and at the same speed, he drove both cars and believed that the strut bar kept the D in a more controlled and even turn-in versus his car. I understand that the stock set-up versus a lowered car will be different. For both of us; driver and as passenger, it was night and day. As an added note, I had driven a stock suspension set-up D for almost 10 years, so I do know the difference. - Joshua Schwartz Monroe, CT 001292 020098 rob@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > Pete, > > > > I agree with Tom that you should put it on and try it so we could here your > opinion. A good customer of mine put one on his car and was impressed enough > to have me order a second one for his other DeLorean while it was in for > service. Although I was skeptical at first, for the same reasons as you are, > on the initial road test it felt like the car had a crisper feel on initial > turn-in for a corner and perhaps a flatter stance (hopefully not the > “placebo effect”:) although I would need more seat time to very this and any > other improvements. One negative is that it interferes with the trunk carpet > positioning unless you’re willing to drill holes in this currently > unavailable part. Perhaps my customer (also a DML’er) would want to comment > as well as he has both an early and a late VIN DMC with some what different > driving characteristics and both cars have the strut bar. My initial > impressions were positive. > > > > Rob Grady, > > > > P.J.Grady Inc. > > > > _____ > > From: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of > Tom Tait > Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 10:36 AM > To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: RE: [DML] Front Strut Bar Question > > > > I'm eager to hear your thoughts on it too... > > -----Original Message----- > From: HYPERLINK "mailto:dmcnews%40yahoogroups.com"dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > on behalf of Cameron, Peter > Sent: Thu 1/24/2008 7:27 AM > To: HYPERLINK "mailto:dmcnews%40yahoogroups.com"dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [DML] Front Strut Bar Question > > Tom, > > Reading through the responses on this list, I think at this point I have no > choice but to do what you suggest, bolt it on and see if I can feel any > difference. My engineering judgement tells me that what we are seeing is > what another member of this list suggested - a placebo effect. But just the > same, I agree with you. I have to bolt it on and see what happens. > > The person whose judgement I respect the most is Rob Grady. Not really fair > of me to ask him to step into this, but just the same I'm quite curious > regarding his opinion. Rob - any thoughts on this that you'd be willing to > share? If not with the list, then with me off-line? > > Pete > > -----Original Message----- > From: HYPERLINK "mailto:dmcnews%40yahoogroups.com"dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > on behalf of Tom Tait > Sent: Wed 1/23/2008 12:40 PM > To: HYPERLINK "mailto:dmcnews%40yahoogroups.com"dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: RE: [DML] Houston Server Down? ("Front Strut Bar" Question) > > Peter: > > I wholly respect your expertise here. I'd just suggest that since you > already have it, and it can be installed and replaced with the original > bolts so quickly, why not give it a try before you sell it. Just a > thought. As yu pointed out some people swear by it. Every engineer I > know loves a good exercise in applied science - just take it for a spin > since it's already in the garage. > > Tom > > [massive quote snipped by Moderator] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.11/1243 - Release Date: 1/25/2008 > 11:24 AM > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.11/1243 - Release Date: 1/25/2008 > 11:24 AM > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: > moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx > > For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com > > To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews > Yahoo! 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