I was comparing it to a 1983 Esprit,which a friend of mine owns,comparing the engineering on a 83 delorean to a 83 Esprit,just the frame alone is/was(Esprit)far superior to what the DMC was engineered with,the interior was better done,with better materials applied,they EVEN engineered a FULL sized spare into the trunk..You would think with a head start on their car and engineered the problems out of it,they would have reflected it into the Delorean.. It just seemed that lotus was doing everything possible to make sure that the Delorean failed..yet at the same time trying to present a fully engineered car,at a minimal level of engineering,and engineering parts into it that came from sub-par vendors/bins,and making them almost impossible to obtain for a DIYer,unless they went through a DMC parts department.DMC had a huge plant to work with and some of the most high tech equipment at the time to make a superior car, with some of the best Minds at Lotus Engineering to Develop a car far superior to the Lotus,but instead engineered a car with almost every component having some defect or problem or being sub- par.That is one of the reasons the Delorean was a car to be avoided in the late 1980's and 1990's,until a established Vendor market was created,which in turn today makes the Delorean a diserable car...JZD BUILT a perfect car for the Vendor market since the OEM parts were of sub-par structure,and needed a aftermarket to re-engineer the total car(ie: frame and all the components) to make it into the car it was always meant to be. Claude --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Martin Gutkowski <martin@...> wrote: > > I categorically disagree with you on that entire statement. About the > only thing that was better on the Epsirt was performance and handling. > And I would agree they probably DID deliberately cripple the DeLorean on > handling. > > I have a good friend who has been running an S2 Esprit daily for much of > the last year (until he spanked it last month). The interior is a horrid > place to be compared to a DeLorean. It's noisy, harsh, rattly and > uncomfortable. So much of the switchgear, door handles etc are > recognisable from other (usually Leyland) cars - at least JZD had the > sense to disguise the samll number he used! The engine might have put a > lot of power out for its displacement (for the time) but needed > rebuilding every year, and the word "quality" does come to mind when > someone who is used to a DeLorean chassis looks at an early Esprit one, > but usually following the words "not what I'd call..." GKN did the DMC12 > proud, whereas Lotus continued to build their own, and it shows. > > Martin > > cbl1739 wrote: > > > Lotus did NOT do the Delorean to the quality > > standards of their Esprit...from which the delorean was based > > from...far below it in it's engineering standards. > > Claude > > > > Recent Activity > > > > > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:dmcnews-digest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx mailto:dmcnews-fullfeatured@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/