Marc: I have offered my help to James et al in putting together the museum, but I'm not on their board and to date I have not done anything for them. I have not had any conversations with them as to their plans or motivations, but I can make informed assumptions, I build and renovate museums and visitors centers for a living. First, I'm sure there are very good an honorable intentions for simply having a museum; carrying on a legacy, telling a story, sharing documents, all that good stuff. That is the part everyone is either focusing on or trying to quantify - how pure are everyone's motivations - and even if they are pure what might happen in the future. There is another side to the whole concept of a museum, and profit has its place in this side as well. It is safe to assume that everyone on the museum committee as either individuals or within their companies has a number of items of value that would go in the museum. They have value and they are just sitting on the books. They are tying up capitol, space, they need to be stored and cared for properly - but you would NEVER throw them away. While historically significant and irreplaceable, they are albatrosses around the necks of their owners. So you own a significant car, worth a lot of money, you spend $ taking care of it and you can't and won't sell it - what do you do? You start a not for profit museum organization. You donate that artifact and get the tax write off while simultaneously ensuring the safety of that item for the future. Win: Win. Not for profit organizations and museums have rules, guidelines, and procedures. I'm sure somewhere (in Houston probably) Enron had a Museum or not for profit archive and they cheated and stole and yes yes yes - it could somehow be abused - these guys are not Enron. Darth Koncelik? James Rove perhaps? I don't see it. I'm sure as businessmen everyone involved with both a business and the museum sees the financial benefits of transferring assets to a museum, and I see nothing Machiavellian about that. If DMCH drives itself to bankruptcy due to making bad business decisions, all those artifacts and assets would get destroyed, lost, or sold at auction (history repeating itself). Of course they want profits and thank God they are getting some. It makes both financial and moral sense to do a museum. I question neither the motives nor the ethics of those involved. I don't think the creativity or the potential windfall exist to turn the museum into a private ATM for those involved. The financial logic of setting the museum up as a not for profit seems clear to me, personally. Before anyone chooses to donate money or goods to any museum, charity or not-for-profit, its wise to understand the nature and workings of that organization. If you want to consider donating something, ASK if you can get a tax write off, ASK how the item will be stored and used - ASK. I would not donate anything to be stacked on the inventory shelves at DMCH and used to generate profit. I won't donate anything which will be stored in a shed in New Orleans below sea level either. If you don't like the museum or its committee, don't donate anything, but I'd say it's unfair to suggest at this point that they are out to take advantage of anyone. My opinion only. Tom 10902 ________________________________ From: Marc Levy Subject: [DML] The merger of threads. (New DeLorean/Museum) --- Shannon Yocom <ssdelorean@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:ssdelorean%40yahoo.com> > wrote: > I understand the confusion amongst the ignorant > public-ADD-sound bite generation, > but Stephen did get John's approval to use the name > (I know, I know... playing Marc's Advocate... > where's the "proof"). Why would you state this as fact, when there is no proof? The correct sound bite is that they CLAIM to have gotten John's approval... Not that it matters, because they did not need it! Stephen, James, and the rest of the folks down in Texas (as well as the rest of the new franchise members) may all have a personal interest in DeLoreans, and a desire to carry on a "legacy" such that they would spear-head an effort to build NEW DeLoreans, or open a museum. But, I find it amazing how so many posts in the past few weeks simply ignore the fact that we are talking about a business and (this time) not the individuals that operate them, and there is a tone that these businesses are somehow operating in the best interest of the general DeLorean public. They operate for PROFIT. In many ways, they will continue to do some things that are in the best interest of the owners but that is because there is a motivation of profit in it. 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