Andy, You are absolutely right, the torsion bar has a really low failure rate. BUT, and that's a really big BUT, until it happens to you, personally, you just can't fathom how useless the car is!! I have been fortunate enough to see first hand and operate a door without the torsion bar, with just a strut attached. Yep, I could get the door opened, yep, I could get in, but what a pain in the BUTT. And getting out was even worse. I'm a pretty big guy (6'4", 250") and it took a lot of effort to extract myself from the vehicle. If you ever get the opportunity to heft one of the Delorean doors (with all the innards attached), I highly recommend it. You will be both in shock and awe. It is one HEAVY unit. My point, I have a friend that has squirreled away three driver's side torsion bars (two nos, one used), but he/she says, until the price reaches $2.5k they won't even think about selling. I chuckled to myself when I first saw this thread's original post, but then I saw the offer to sell a used one for $1.5k, I came to the realization that, this is another part of the car, (just like the left front fender, except the bar is not repairable, yet) that many owners will pay a premium to have, just to make the car "drivable". I dearly hope that someone can come up for a repair to the torsion bars or can manage to fabricate new ones, but I dread the day that I hear the snap inside my T-panel. As of right now, there are not a lot of options available to the community. Mike TPS 1630 PS: My car was stored for the first 19 years of it's life with the doors open, maybe I'll get a small reprieve. --- Soma576@xxxxxxx wrote: > > Well, I think you guys are crazy to be talking about > putting money up front to preorder an item you will > very likely never need to use.? Even if I had > millions of dollars I still would not put up $500 or > more to have a spare part that has an extremely low > failure rate.? Every instance I have heard where a > bar broke, it was because it was rubbing on the > hinge or was hit with a drill while repairing the > roof seals.? > > > > This is a lot like having a spare door for your > refrigerator.? It really isn't that big a deal.? > Bummer if you need a new one, but it's not like it > costs $5,000 for an OEM bar.? Even if it was > $10,000, I would still see no value to buying a > spare. I will take my chances. > > > > Andy > > > -----Original Message----- > From: jordan rubin <nuttenschleuder@xxxxxxxxx> > To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 2:44 am > Subject: RE: [DML] Torsion bar update > > > > > I would definately pre order a driver side bar just > in > case if the price was reasonable. > > > --- Paul J <willinot@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > I would be interested in ordering one up if they > > were successful in the > > production and Im sure others would too. > Obviously > > price dependant. > > > > It may help to bring the overall price down if he > > knew subsequent orders > > would follow. > > > > Paul J > > Belfast > > > > _____ > > > > From: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > [mailto:dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of > > jrc2905 > > Sent: 28 June 2007 03:28 > > To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [DML] Torsion bar update > > > > > > > > I had an appointment with the welder who is going > to > > repair my torsion > > bar. He is a metal/engineer/-welder. He showed me > > his welding equipment > > and it is ultra sophisticated. He does work for > > NASA. He said the > > repair is not a problem but he wants as much > > information about the > > torsion bar as possible. The type of metal, and > the > > process it went > > through in it's production, heat treatments that > > type of stuff. He > > examined the fracture and the metal and he thinks > he > > knows what it is > > but likes more information. The information is > also > > important because > > he said with the proper information he can treat > the > > metal and make me > > a new torsion bar that will work. If I can get > that > > information I will > > pay him to make the bar and try it on my car. > > He showed me some of his work. Two-quarter inch > > pieces of metal the > > thickness of tin foil with perfect welds on all > > sides, I think I have > > found the best welder for the job. > > This is an opportunity to address the torsion bar > > issue so any > > information will really help. 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