Thanks for the couple replies I have recieved. All very interesting as it does open up some other areas to look. I will have to give Dave a call and run down the list of questions. In a pnic stop the car will stop. There is no pulling in either direction when you apply the barkes. I get a lot of brake pad clatter when driving on bumpy pavement even with Rob Grady's spring and cotter assembly. I never recall this especially when weI had a gravel driveway growing up with the car. Always smooth and quiet, soemtimes alittle brake squeal. The problem in a panic stop is that that the second longer it takes me to get to the brake actually doing anything may be the second I need to prevent an accident. This is my main concern of course. BC --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Harold McElraft" <hmcelraft@...> wrote: > > Believe it or not there are several things that can cause a low > pedal. Most common is air in the system (an ineffective bench bleed > of a new master cylinder is not too uncommon). Next is a faulty > master cylinder - and it goes on to more granular issues from there. > You shouldn't need any "pedal adjustment". > > Since there is no "pumping up" to get pedal, this would imply there > is no air in the system - except possibly at the master cylinder. > Also, I don't know how the brake system was bleed but, if a pedal > bleed was performed the pedal bottomed-out the master cylinder by > allowing the pedal to go all the way to the floor. The sealing inside > can get messed up when this is done - older MCs are always suspect > for this - new MCs can get messed up too. I avoid pedal bleeds on all > my cars for this reason. If the MC is eliminated as a cause then I > would suspect a faulty caliper or bad brake lines? How does the car > feel in a panic stop? > > Harold McElraft - 3354 > > > > --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "byrondelorean" <celiambyron@> > wrote: > > > > I had a full restoration of my DeLorean at Dave Bauerle's garage in > > 2004. My DeLorean has been in my family since new. There is no one > > that knows this car better then myself. I cared for this (my dad's > > car) since I was 12 Years of age. I also just sold a DeLorean that > > came in 3rd PLace at the DCS Millenium Concourse this past year. My > > concern & Looming irritating deal is with my brakes. I remember a > > nice firm feeling when applying the brakes. Just like a cadillac's > > power assist brakes. Nice smooth transition, just when you depress > > the pedal it should go right into mode soft to firm. I told Dave > > that the brakes did not feel right to me after I drove away. Dave > > purchase remanufactured complete brake system from Specialty Auto. > > My understanding was that my original brakes were to be completely > > overhauled and re-installed. Hind site may have forced the issue of > > either overhauling the existing or going with houston's set: But > > before anyone gets bashed, there may be a simple solution. Pedal > > adjustment? Here is the deal. The brakes consistantly depress about > > 4" inches before action takes place. My 3rd place concourse car was > > about 1/2", just the way I remembered it. Nice and firm. I have no > > ackward pumping of the brake and variable pedal height that would > > suggest the master cylinder. Having thought about the Master > > Cylinder as suspect, I went ahead and bought a new master cylinder > > from Houston. Nothing changed. Vaccum was tested. perfect. Lines > > were bled 3 times. The owner at Munk's Motors (Porsche VW BMW) > > agrees that my brakes are not adiquate compred to the other > > DeLorean's he's had the privelage to work on and drive. He does not > > know what is going on either. No leaks. > > John Hervey & Dave Bauerle spoke about the issue with no resolve > for > > me. Yet another year goes by. I want the brakes to work right, I > > spent the money, have no problem to spend more when someone can > tell > > me what is needed. So for me the brake sytsem is suspect. > > > > Any one that can solve this problem for me is my friend for life. > > Unfortunately Dave's shop is a 3 hour drive, so warranty issues are > > not an easy task. Dave did a remarkable job on my car. To date it > > drives and sound like new other than the brakes. However Dave is > > only as good as the parts he recieves. I also had a faulty battery > > light caused by a connection form the alternator purchased at > > Specialty. When I conduct business, a vendor and manufacturer > > (myself) get together with the customer to solve problems. I would > > like to see this happen so I can feel as thou all that could be > done > > was done. > > Byron > > > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:dmcnews-digest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx mailto:dmcnews-fullfeatured@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! 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