Byron were the rubber Brake lines replaced when the Brake system was done? If you want you can call me or email me & we can set up a day to look it over to check the problem, I work with Houston, John & Dave & will gladly check this out to try to resolve it so you & your car are safe. Lawrence 313-506-3786 --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "byrondelorean" <celiambyron@...> wrote: > > Thanks for the couple replies I have recieved. All very interesting > as it does open up some other areas to look. I will have to give > Dave a call and run down the list of questions. > In a pnic stop the car will stop. There is no pulling in either > direction when you apply the barkes. I get a lot of brake pad > clatter when driving on bumpy pavement even with Rob Grady's spring > and cotter assembly. I never recall this especially when weI had a > gravel driveway growing up with the car. Always smooth and quiet, > soemtimes alittle brake squeal. The problem in a panic stop is that > that the second longer it takes me to get to the brake actually > doing anything may be the second I need to prevent an accident. This > is my main concern of course. > BC > > --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Harold McElraft" <hmcelraft@> > wrote: > > > > Believe it or not there are several things that can cause a low > > pedal. Most common is air in the system (an ineffective bench > bleed > > of a new master cylinder is not too uncommon). Next is a faulty > > master cylinder - and it goes on to more granular issues from > there. > > You shouldn't need any "pedal adjustment". > > > > Since there is no "pumping up" to get pedal, this would imply > there > > is no air in the system - except possibly at the master cylinder. > > Also, I don't know how the brake system was bleed but, if a pedal > > bleed was performed the pedal bottomed-out the master cylinder by > > allowing the pedal to go all the way to the floor. The sealing > inside > > can get messed up when this is done - older MCs are always suspect > > for this - new MCs can get messed up too. I avoid pedal bleeds on > all > > my cars for this reason. If the MC is eliminated as a cause then I > > would suspect a faulty caliper or bad brake lines? How does the > car > > feel in a panic stop? > > > > Harold McElraft - 3354 > > > > > > > > --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "byrondelorean" <celiambyron@> > > wrote: > > > > > > I had a full restoration of my DeLorean at Dave Bauerle's garage > in > > > 2004. My DeLorean has been in my family since new. There is no > one > > > that knows this car better then myself. I cared for this (my > dad's > > > car) since I was 12 Years of age. I also just sold a DeLorean > that > > > came in 3rd PLace at the DCS Millenium Concourse this past year. > My > > > concern & Looming irritating deal is with my brakes. I remember > a > > > nice firm feeling when applying the brakes. Just like a > cadillac's > > > power assist brakes. Nice smooth transition, just when you > depress > > > the pedal it should go right into mode soft to firm. I told Dave > > > that the brakes did not feel right to me after I drove away. > Dave > > > purchase remanufactured complete brake system from Specialty > Auto. > > > My understanding was that my original brakes were to be > completely > > > overhauled and re-installed. Hind site may have forced the issue > of > > > either overhauling the existing or going with houston's set: But > > > before anyone gets bashed, there may be a simple solution. Pedal > > > adjustment? Here is the deal. The brakes consistantly depress > about > > > 4" inches before action takes place. My 3rd place concourse car > was > > > about 1/2", just the way I remembered it. Nice and firm. I have > no > > > ackward pumping of the brake and variable pedal height that > would > > > suggest the master cylinder. Having thought about the Master > > > Cylinder as suspect, I went ahead and bought a new master > cylinder > > > from Houston. Nothing changed. Vaccum was tested. perfect. Lines > > > were bled 3 times. The owner at Munk's Motors (Porsche VW BMW) > > > agrees that my brakes are not adiquate compred to the other > > > DeLorean's he's had the privelage to work on and drive. He does > not > > > know what is going on either. No leaks. > > > John Hervey & Dave Bauerle spoke about the issue with no resolve > > for > > > me. Yet another year goes by. I want the brakes to work right, I > > > spent the money, have no problem to spend more when someone can > > tell > > > me what is needed. So for me the brake sytsem is suspect. > > > > > > Any one that can solve this problem for me is my friend for > life. > > > Unfortunately Dave's shop is a 3 hour drive, so warranty issues > are > > > not an easy task. Dave did a remarkable job on my car. To date > it > > > drives and sound like new other than the brakes. However Dave is > > > only as good as the parts he recieves. I also had a faulty > battery > > > light caused by a connection form the alternator purchased at > > > Specialty. When I conduct business, a vendor and manufacturer > > > (myself) get together with the customer to solve problems. I > would > > > like to see this happen so I can feel as thou all that could be > > done > > > was done. > > > Byron > > > > > > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/join (Yahoo! 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