Separate from the fans issue, my car also never warmed up enough, but it wasn't the fans. I'm not a long-time car guy... the D has been making me come up to speed these last 8 months. But shouldn't the thermostat do its job to keep your car warm? If the thermostat is closed, it doesn't matter how much air is going through the radiator because engine coolant shouldn't be sent through that cooling loop. When summer ended, my car never got past the 1/8 mark unless it sat still in traffic for a long time, then temps dropped back down as soon as I was moving again. Turned out my thermostat was stuck partially open. Replacing it did the trick and will surely also help my car run cooler come summer. The system is really designed to be wide open or completely closed. A partially blocked thermostat not only warms the car inefficiently, it presumably also cools it inefficiently. I just posted a similar message about thermostats if you would like help changing yours, I'd be glad to help any way I can. Marv #10820 AZ-D --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Soma576@xxxx wrote: > > > > In a message dated 1/14/2006 5:55:50 P.M. Central Standard Time, > ckevinj@xxxx writes: > > Hmmm.. question about this otterstadt and the metal clip: > can the metal clip ground out one of the connections on the otterstat and > either cause the fans to run continuous or not all? > Seems like it could, which could my issue, they run constantly and the > engine never warms up enough when its not hot outside. > -Jason Bourne-- er, Kevin > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/