Hello Robert, I understand your criticism. I have owned my Delorean for about two weeks now and am currently waiting for my workshop manual to be shipped out to me from the PO. After the car failed dthe first time I took it to DMC in garden grove. they adjusted the fuel mixture and checked the timing to be certain that they were in spec. It failed again after this checkup at which point I ordered the tuneup kit and a Cat and O2 sensor from john. Since installing these components the car it has been running really well, however STILL fails smog. I will again be taking the car to Garden Grove, this time hopefully it will be fixed. I guess my point is that when there is something beyond my understanding (Fuel Mixture/timing) I DO take it too the experts. Things like tuneups, electrical trouble shooting, etc I can do very well. The Smog thing I can not figure out, and neither can a lot of other "experienced" people I have talked too. that is why I post here. I firmly believe in the power of on line forums like this one. Many people with many different experiences can voice their experience. I then sift through and decide which apply to me. If you have suggestions for how to better utilize this resource please let me know. Nathan Sobieralski 2277 --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "therealdmcvegas" <dmcvegas@xxxx> wrote: > > Let me start off by saying that I am not intending for this post to be > a flame. It's not an attack, just an honest question for people. > > I've been pretty dormant on this, and other lists for a while now, but > I have been reading some of the topics that have recently been > discussed. Two in particular are regarding "valleyrat's" failed smog > test, and Scott's Hot-Start issue. And I honestly have to ask this: > > Do any of you own a Workshop Manual? To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/