[DML] Re: Jumping Out of 5th Gear

["dmc_5180" <dmc_5180@xxxxxxxxx>]

Dave, Been there done that 6 years ago including the double roll pin. Back then it was very 
apparent that the roll pin was sheared because shifting into 2nd was very mushy on 
occasion with the spring compressing on the sliding fork shaft. Either way the only way to 
find out for sure is to open things up again " Oh Craptacular" :-) I guess I know what I will 
be doing at the Chicago spring tech session.

Dennis

--- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, <rob@xxxx> wrote:
>
> Dennis, 
> 
> It sure sounds like the typical broken second gear fork pin symptoms. This
> is most commonly caused by someone trying to make it home without a tow call
> after losing their clutch fluid. IMHO it's not with the risk of damage to
> the car or the person driving it to force a car into gear with a
> malfunctioning clutch. Don't blame yourself as this could have happened
> years ago to a P.O. and the weakened pin finally decided to let go. In any
> case the fix is to R & R the transmission and replace the pin or ignore it
> until it gets worse.  Unfortunately it may eventually cause damage to the
> first/second slide hub which is much worse because it's very hard to find
> slide hubs these days. BTW when we replace this pin we install a smaller one
> inside the replacement pin to give it extra strength. You should also plan
> on changing all the seals and gaskets.
> 
> David,
> 
> The "pops out of fifth" problem is not very common but I've seen twenty or
> so cases over the years and the cause is usually a bent shift fork which we
> usually replace. Can I assume that you are straightening this fork to effect
> a repair as this part is also somewhat hard to get?
> 
> Rob Grady,
> 
> P.J.Grady Inc.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> dmc_5180
> Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 12:49 PM
> To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [DML] Re: Jumping Out of 5th Gear
> 
> Hi David,
>  
> I don't have a problem with 5th gear, but I am starting to have problem with
> 2nd gear 
> popping out now and then.  Although it only seems to happen when the
> transmission oil is 
> cold right after start up and heading down the road. The senario: I would
> start out for a 
> drive No problems then when I pull up the an intersection after down
> shifting. Call it a 
> rolling stop I shift from 3rd to 2nd and think it is all the way in 2nd when
> I let the clutch 
> out to start going again the shifter pops forward. In all the years
> following fixing the 
> Second gear roll pin problem I had never had a problem until the last few
> months.
> 
> As for your 5th gear problem. A couple years back Ed Bernstein wrote a long
> winded 
> Cluthch and Transmission tech article for DW magazine. it covered 3 issues.
> I remember 
> the popping out of 5th gear as sympton of a clutch alignment I think. I
> don't have my back 
> issues handy at the momment  but if someone else happens to have their back
> issues 
> handy  please look it up and post the symptoms and probable cause stuff.
> 
> Dennis
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty@xxxx> wrote:
> >
> > Does anyone have any problems with their 5-speed jumping out of 5th
> > gear while they are driving? I am trying to see if it is at all a
> > common problem. I just fixed 2 transmissions that had the problem and
> > I am not sure how common it is. The fix is not too bad, I can do it
> > without removing the transmission and without any parts (unless I find
> > something missing or broken). The most difficult part is squeezing all
> > that gear oil back in!
> > David Teitelbaum
> > vin 10757
> >
> 
> 
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