Good question - It's in the "operating controls" section of the judging manual. The car has to start, run, idle well, the A/C has to work etc. The only thing that we don't do is make the owner drive it around, so I suppose one could sneak in a non-functioning transmission. Maybe we ought to do something about that. Discussion probably ought to be continued on the Concours Yahoo list "millennium-concours". Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "alex morgan" <mauibarber@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 1:17 PM Subject: Concours question I had a quick question about the concours competition. I couldn't find this info on the millenium page. My question is, "Does the car have to start? Do the judges ask you to start the car? I know they check the operation of the dash clock and such but do the cars actually have to turn over?" To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/