One note on this whole 60 ft lb. lug nut thing - I tried following this rule for a while, until one time after having my wheels off for brake work I came home to find two of the lugs on the passenger front wheel completely loose and *almost spun off completely*!!! Now I think there may be an issue with this wheel, when tightening the nuts they seem to spin at the same torque for a while before getting tighter. I think the studs might be rotating in the hub. At any rate, I now tighten all my lugs as tight as I can get them by hand using a standard X-style lug wrench. I have never had trouble removing them and they have never come loose since. (Interesting on the chrysler note. I hadn't experienced that on my 66 dart, maybe it's been modified?) My final word on the mechanic subject is, one way to avoid it is just to do all the work yourself, even if you have no idea what you are doing, you'll learn, and if you mess up you can't blame anyone else :) I'm convinced there are so many resources to learn how to work on this car than just about any other car out there, there's not really a reason not to unless you are flush and live near a good service center (I am neither) or you're just physically unable. Doug --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty@xxxx> wrote: > Better too tight than too loose. In the 60's and 70's mechanics (and I > use that term loosely) would routinely break off the lug nuts and > studs on Chrysler products. Chrysler used left-hand threads on the > left side of the car. The idea was they would tend to tighten > themselves. In 71 Chrysler gave up on that idea, too many broken studs > and it wasn't really necessary. The guys doing tire work are not > rocket scientists, it is a low paying job. It is one of those > "starter" type jobs where you can take a new hire and put him on it > with little training. Like oil changes. These jobs are > "bottom-of-the-barrel" kind of jobs. Unfortunately they can have very > serious consequences if done improperly! Every shop can tell you a > horror story about the guy who forgot to tighten the wheel lugs and > the customer drove out but not back! As I have said before any shop is > only as good as it's worst mechanic on a bad day. And they all have > bad days. It is how they stand behind the problems that separate out > the good shops from the bad ones. A good shop will care about it's > reputation. > David Teitelbaum > vin 10757 To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/