Well Martin, the idle switch doesn't turn the idle ECU off at all. Instead it rises the idle speed to about 1200...1500rpm. Why ? because it would never be fast enough to jump in and to catch the engine before going off. Ever wondered why idle is so high when the switch isn't being pushed but the butterflys are completely closed ? No, ignition advance isn't the only reason. Elvis & 6548 While we're on the subject of the iddlsespeed valve: Exactly WHY does the idlespeed system need to know when to turn on? If it were hard-wired all the time, surely it would just close when the throttle wasn't at idle? I've adjusted countless throttle plate screws, throttle link rods and springs. it's amazing what 5 minutes spent on a car will do for a smooth idle :-) Martin To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/