I agree with David too. While I believe it's important to learn as much as you can some people are so technically inept (no offense intended) they should bite the bullet and pay to have the problem corrected. If you're going to service your own cars you need to invest in the basic tools, instruments, and knowledge to do so. It can be a fine line to walk at times for those just starting out. By the way, Elvis is right. As much technical writing as I've done I should know better than to use words like "kill" and "power". If power to the ECU was killed it would stop the motor at a random position. Because the Delorean uses a duty controlled rotary valve for ISC this wouldn't be good. The idle ECU remains powered at all times but if I had written the idle speed switch supplies an active low input sunked to ground it would've only confused matters. Sometimes things just have to be dumbed down and the poster in question didn't even understand basic switch operation. Martin, the ECU sets the motor to a default duty value when that input is brought low. It's the same default value as when the tach input is lost. One of the ways (there are several but the manual only gives one as I recall) to test the idle speed loop is to disconnect the switch when the throttle plates are fully closed and observe a rise in RPM as Elvis points out. Either that or crack the throttle enough to open the switch and manually depress it to observe a drop in RPM as the loop becomes active. You can even do a crude check for unmetered air using the system. I prefer a more enhanced method than either of those but the one in the book is good enough for a basic check. Greg To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/