Just looking at a wiring diaghram is difficult for most people. When you have relays controling relays you have to understand what controls the relays and what each is SUPPOSED to do and why it is in there. The wiring diaghram does not show the internal wiring of the relays. You need to know how the circuit is supposed to operate. Studying the system notes in the Workshop Manual can help, many things are explained there. Most people on the list are not electrical engineers and even if one is if he is not familiar with automotive systems in general and Bosch systems in particular the intellegent guy would ask questions. By asking the right question and getting a rapid response can save someone hours of grief. I agree it takes some limited knowledge just so a person can ask intellegent questions. Hopefully a person trying do do his own work will invest the time and energy in at least trying to get some basics. I would not expect everyone to become an expert. Now you are getting to the real purpose of the DML. To offer advice, help, and encouragment to those who are trying to keep their cars running the best they can and enjoy them in all aspects. Although MANY questions could be answered if the person looked in the Workshop Manual as we all know many people never look in the instruction manual for ANYTHING. Real men NEVER ask for directions. That is until they are beyond all hope of getting out of their mess themselves! I would rather give advice BEFORE a person got himself into deep trouble and took the wrong things apart or replaced a lot of good parts and still didn't fix the problem. On the subject of the fuel pump, it needs to run a little just to get some fuel to the motor so it can start. If it doesn't pulse that in itself tells a lot. David Teitelbaum vin 10757 --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Matt Spittle" <supermatty@xxxx> wrote: > > > --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "endotex23" <endotex23@xxxx> wrote: > In this example all the owner had to do is study the diagram to > answer his own question. Learning how is not difficult and basic > auto electrical theory is something anyone who wants to work on cars > should learn. > > So Greg, > > I studied the diagram to answer my own question, and I wasn't able > to; not even with a background in electrical engineering. > > Part of my original question was if the frequency valve was supposed > to run while the key was in the ON position. So I look at the To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/