Re: [DML] Re: DeLo's In Year 'Round Use

["Steve" <steve@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Bob, the hydroplaning problem you are referring to is common for any vehicle
without anti-lock brakes. The car will always go in the direction of the
momentum even if you turn the wheels. I was lucky enough to get to try it on
a driving course but the next time it rains go to your local shopping center
(open space) and try letting go of the brakes as you are turning. You will
get immediate control and the car will turn. It takes a bit of time and
skill to not lock the brakes in a panic but the anti lock is not doing
anything that people already did manually for many years, it may do it
better but after a few hours practice on a wet lot you should be able to
override the urge to put your foot thru the floor when some idiot cuts you
off. I don't know if you have a stick but engine braking will slow you down
pretty quickly without having to use as much brake.


Steve
#2700


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Videobob Moseley" <videobob@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 1:37 PM
Subject: Re: [DML] Re: DeLo's In Year 'Round Use


>
>
> Yeah, but when some asshole in a BMW crosses 3 lanes to jump in front of
you
> and get into the left lane, then another idiot decides to stop at the
yellow
> instead
> of flooring it like everyone else does, then the BMW stops short with his
> $135K car's
> braking system.... then your 20+ year old brake technology simply locks
the
> wheels,
> then you begin to hydroplane and actually PICK UP speed, and even if you
> turn the wheel
> and nothing happens...... THEN WHAT?
> I was only going 30 MPH on a concrete road, "Beltline" in Dallas known
which
> has one of the most accident prone intersections in the USA (as studied by
> insurance companies).
>
> I am not talking about ideal driving conditions with Ms. Daisy, in a panic
> stop this is
> not a good car to be in.
> It will slide and then jerk you into another direction.
> (Like I said, watch BTTF1 and see the car do it)
> I am guessing that this is because the pressure is not evenly distributed
> among all the
> brack cylinders, as pressure releases it allows one wheel to spin and gain
> traction,
> if you are attempting to turn out of the way and the wheel is turned a
> little it will
> grab and jerk you in that direction.
> This actually helped me once.
> Some guy came to a quick dead stop on a 55 MPH little road, I slammed the
> brakes
> and started sliding, at the last second before I hit him, the car jerked
to
> the right hard and steered
> me around the truck and into the shoulder.
>
> Divine intervention or faulty engineering saved my ass.
>
> I have gotten used to driving cars with ABS, my Taurus is such a good car
> that I can not
> make it go out of control if I try.
> I have tried to do some age old brake tricks but nothing works.
> You can slam the brakes and steer like normal and come to a quick
controlled
> stop.
> There is a lot of difference in todays cars compared to the one's of a few
> decades ago.
> - Videobob
>
> >From: "Owen @ Aerodrome" <owen@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Reply-To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >Subject: Re: [DML] Re: DeLo's In Year 'Round Use
> >Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2004 08:31:32 -0800
> >
> >
> >
> > > Yes it's true, I do drive like a mad man, but that was not the case
when
> >I
> > > was only
> > > going 30 MPH, and slid about 50 feet into the back of a BMW with zero
> > > control of the
> > > car in heavy rain.
> > > Bottom line, leave the car at home in the rain and take the OTHER car.
> >
> >No offence meant, but I think I'm gonna go with "learn to drive properly
in
> >the rain, since it'll come in handy in other situations, too."
> >
> >At 30mi/hr, a 3-second following distance (the minimum sane distance in
wet
> >weather) equates to 132 feet, giving plenty of room to stop, even if you
do
> >slide.  A fifty-foot following distance might have qualified for "mad
mad"
> >status after all.  :-)
> >
> >Regards,
> >Owen
> >
> >VIN 10470 "1 21 GW"
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address:
> >moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see
www.dmcnews.com
> >
> >To search the archives or view files, log in at
> >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews
> >Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address:
> moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx
>
> For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see
www.dmcnews.com
>
> To search the archives or view files, log in at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>






To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address:
moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx

For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com

To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews 
Yahoo! Groups Links

<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/

<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
    dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
    http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/