Other than the occasional incorrect BTTF reference, such as no NCT's used on Deloreans in any of the three BTTF movies, there is another more important reason why VB seems to rub people the wrong way and that's a lack of behind wheel time in a Delorean. I have owned one or more Deloreans since 1985 and have logged tens of thousands of miles driving several different Deloreans, in all kinds of weather conditions, but I do not feel the need comment "this is the way all Deloreans must be" just because it happened in one car, under one set of circumstances. It's these type of incorrect comments that paint a bad picture of Deloreans. VB is still a new owner with less than a year of behind the wheel time in a Delorean (especially since it was down for repairs), yet the casual or new member to the DML may think he has years of experience by the way he states his opinions. I remember some of VB's first posts, when he was comparing his Taurus to his Delorean when discussing braking (he still posts about the Taurus). My point here is not to bash VB's incorrect assumptions, but rather to recommend looking at the big picture and consider other things that may be the root cause of the poor braking conditions of his Delorean. Sometimes you have to look at a problem a little deeper. Some of you have already mentioned other possible contributing factors and it may be a number of these things all together. Type of tires, age, condition and air pressures. Condition of the brake master. Type and condition of the brake lines (rubber or SS) Type and condition of brake fluid. Condition of the brake pads (even if new, one or more pads can easily get glazed). Type and condition of rotors and the operating condition of the calipers. Alignment also plays a big part in stable braking conditions. Other items that are not usually thought about with braking on other types of cars (like the Taurus) is the condition of the trailing arm bolts (bent, loose, tight but shims missing, etc.) and the condition of ball joints and suspension bushings. Another item often overlooked by possibly half of all Delorean owners (because this only applies to Deloreans with automatics) is the effects of heavy braking, wet or dry, when combined with the downshifting of the automatic transmission. The automatic Deloreans do not downshift like a Taurus and this could result in an unnerving effect during heavy braking or a panic stop. My advice to VB would be to look beyond what appears to be the obvious and seek out the advice of more experienced Delorean drivers. Go out and drive your Delorean when the weather is bad but AWAY from others and adjust you braking style with the car. Check all the components listed above on a regular basis and get more behind the wheel miles in to gain more D experience. Later, Rich W. --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Videobob Moseley" <videobob@xxxx> wrote: > > Put in a copy of BTTF 1, just after Marty goes back in time and leaves > Peabody's farm > he is driving down an old country road and then slamms the brakes. > The cars slides on the front wheels and then jerks to the left hard. > > There is your DeLorean braking system. > Of course, those were a set of Goodyear NCT's but the also on bone dry > asphalt. To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/