Yeah, but when some asshole in a BMW crosses 3 lanes to jump in front of you and get into the left lane, then another idiot decides to stop at the yellow instead of flooring it like everyone else does, then the BMW stops short with his $135K car's braking system.... then your 20+ year old brake technology simply locks the wheels, then you begin to hydroplane and actually PICK UP speed, and even if you turn the wheel and nothing happens...... THEN WHAT? I was only going 30 MPH on a concrete road, "Beltline" in Dallas known which has one of the most accident prone intersections in the USA (as studied by insurance companies). I am not talking about ideal driving conditions with Ms. Daisy, in a panic stop this is not a good car to be in. It will slide and then jerk you into another direction. (Like I said, watch BTTF1 and see the car do it) I am guessing that this is because the pressure is not evenly distributed among all the brack cylinders, as pressure releases it allows one wheel to spin and gain traction, if you are attempting to turn out of the way and the wheel is turned a little it will grab and jerk you in that direction. This actually helped me once. Some guy came to a quick dead stop on a 55 MPH little road, I slammed the brakes and started sliding, at the last second before I hit him, the car jerked to the right hard and steered me around the truck and into the shoulder. Divine intervention or faulty engineering saved my ass. I have gotten used to driving cars with ABS, my Taurus is such a good car that I can not make it go out of control if I try. I have tried to do some age old brake tricks but nothing works. You can slam the brakes and steer like normal and come to a quick controlled stop. There is a lot of difference in todays cars compared to the one's of a few decades ago. - Videobob >From: "Owen @ Aerodrome" <owen@xxxxxxxxxxxx> >Reply-To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >Subject: Re: [DML] Re: DeLo's In Year 'Round Use >Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2004 08:31:32 -0800 > > > > > Yes it's true, I do drive like a mad man, but that was not the case when >I > > was only > > going 30 MPH, and slid about 50 feet into the back of a BMW with zero > > control of the > > car in heavy rain. > > Bottom line, leave the car at home in the rain and take the OTHER car. > >No offence meant, but I think I'm gonna go with "learn to drive properly in >the rain, since it'll come in handy in other situations, too." > >At 30mi/hr, a 3-second following distance (the minimum sane distance in wet >weather) equates to 132 feet, giving plenty of room to stop, even if you do >slide. A fifty-foot following distance might have qualified for "mad mad" >status after all. :-) > >Regards, >Owen > >VIN 10470 "1 21 GW" > > > > > >To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: >moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx > >For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com > >To search the archives or view files, log in at >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/