Re: [DML] Trademarks, and DMCH

["cbl1739" <cbl302@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Here is the perfect solution,for DMCH.


No disrespect to you James or DMCH,but why not just add just add the 
Roman numerals II as in  DMC II  as your trademark logo and Delorean 
Motor Company II, as your business,so that anybody and everybody 
would know that you are NOT the original company from 1981,as the  
name Delorean One(the company),distinguishes itself from being known 
as the "original company" by using the above name or as Mark L. says, 
are you are trying to blur the picture between the original company 
and your business.
Using the above would distinguish DMCH as its own RIGHT to exist,on 
its own merits,whether for good or bad,or in between.Much in the same 
matter as AVANTI II has done for itself, as its own company,promoting 
and selling the original style AVANTI,but using the numerals II in 
the AVANTI name to distinguish itself from the original company
(ironic as JZD used to work for Studebaker)
If DMCH truly wants to be "fair" with the Delorean Community and with 
other vendors,they would simply start using DMC II as their logo,and 
call themselves Delorean Motor Company II, rather than DMC or 
Delorean Motor Company.
On another note,in the past I had bought out entire inventories from 
defunct business,but I NEVER was given the right to use their defunct 
business names or logo,and that was a direct purchase from a defunct 
company,DMCH bought their inventory from a second party!!   With no 
direct purchase from JZD or from the original Delorean Motor Co.
If I was a vendor I would have EVERY right to use the DMC logo as 
dmch has.
Hell,I am surprised James did not notice in the TV movie,that was 
shown this past summer,they used the EXACT DMC(as they use it) logo 
on the I.D.Badges worn by the actors in the made for TV 
movie "Earthquake"

Regards
Claude





--- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Marc Levy <malevy_nj@xxxx> wrote:
> 
> I don't remember seeing DMCH claim they also owned the
> STYLIZED FORM of "DeLorean".. Just the Logo.
> 
> Although, I see they did register it LAST YEAR
> December, 2003.  See serial number 78344118.  
> 
> The registration serial 76165416 from Ephesians 6:12
> expired March 18, 2003..  Which would explain why DMCH
> would re-register it December 2003.   However, it has
> again been public domain for 10+ years.  It is
> difficult if not impossible to enforce a trademark
> registration when the logo use predates the
> registration.
> 
> Serial Number 75756108 is the DMCH registered "DMC"
> logo.  Which, use also predates the existence of DMCH.
>  
> http://tess2.uspto.gov/webaka/images/75756108.gif
> 
> Serial Number 73162366 is the trademark of the logo as
> it appears on the front grill of the car.  This
> trademark expired in 1985, and I see no claims of
> current ownership for it. 
> http://tess2.uspto.gov/webaka/images/73162366.gif
> 
> With all that said, each time this topic comes up I
> again think about why it even matters..  The same
> conclusion every time, it boils down to greed on the
> part of DMCH.  Greed in not such an awful thing, but
> as with all of the other faults I have discussed over
> the years with the way DMCH (and other "vendors")
> conduct themselves, It is my opinion that they take it
> too far..  In defense of DMCH, one of the new
> "vendors" on the scene makes them look like a DeLorean
> charity!  LOL
> 
> 
> --- "Michael C. Babb" <mcb@xxxx> wrote:
> 
> <SNIP>
> > 
> > This same "company" also had the trademark for the
> > stylized "DeLorean" 
> > text (like on the back bumpers) 
> >
> http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=oo8l2j.3.3
> > which is now 
> > a trademark of DMC-Texas
> <SNIP>
> 
> 
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