I found it: (searched for delorean) http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=elfpo9.2.4 Registration Number 2491848 Registration Date September 25, 2001 Owner (REGISTRANT) DeLorean Motor Company CORPORATION TEXAS 10804 Roark Road Houston TEXAS 77099 Aaron #1506 --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "John Hicks" <johnzd81@xxxx> wrote: > > > Sorry, but this thread is getting a little boring. > > I do feel I have a bit of expertise in this area having just > patented an invention, and exploring the correct way to promote and > register my trademark so it is defendable. Patenting and > trademarking is arduous if you decide to go it alone, just wading > through the legalese stops most people dead in their tracks. > > You do not copyright a logo. Period. Copyright protects > intellectual property such as documents. To copyright a document, > you merely add "Copyright yyyy by (your name, organization etc...) > and your material is protected for 99 years. Copyrights are non- > renewable. Laws against plagerism protect copyrighted materials > from being "re-written" and re-copyrighted. > > Logos require a "Registered" Trademark issued by the US Patent and > Trademark Office (www.uspto.com). You may also get an international > trademark issued (i.e. Nike, MBA, DMC etc....) If you go to the > USPTO site, and do a Trademark search for DMC, you will find the > trademark is dead. (here's a direct link) > > http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/gate.exe? > state=1mn974.4.1&f=toc&a_search=&p_s_ALL=DMC > > In order to obtain a registered trademark for your logo, the logo > must be actively used in commerce, you then provide proofs that you > are using a unique logo in commerce, via photos or samples of the > logo on the product, or the product packaging. > > If you follow the above link, and click on DeLorean Motor Company, > you will see the Logo is considered dead, no one owns the logo at > this time, or has any legal claim to it under US law. At this time, > there do not appear to be any new applications for the logo pending, > so DMCH, even though they are using the logo actively in commerce, > does not have a legal claim that would hold up in court. > > John VIN 1674 To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/