Sorry, but this thread is getting a little boring. I do feel I have a bit of expertise in this area having just patented an invention, and exploring the correct way to promote and register my trademark so it is defendable. Patenting and trademarking is arduous if you decide to go it alone, just wading through the legalese stops most people dead in their tracks. You do not copyright a logo. Period. Copyright protects intellectual property such as documents. To copyright a document, you merely add "Copyright yyyy by (your name, organization etc...) and your material is protected for 99 years. Copyrights are non- renewable. Laws against plagerism protect copyrighted materials from being "re-written" and re-copyrighted. Logos require a "Registered" Trademark issued by the US Patent and Trademark Office (www.uspto.com). You may also get an international trademark issued (i.e. Nike, MBA, DMC etc....) If you go to the USPTO site, and do a Trademark search for DMC, you will find the trademark is dead. (here's a direct link) http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/gate.exe? state=1mn974.4.1&f=toc&a_search=&p_s_ALL=DMC In order to obtain a registered trademark for your logo, the logo must be actively used in commerce, you then provide proofs that you are using a unique logo in commerce, via photos or samples of the logo on the product, or the product packaging. If you follow the above link, and click on DeLorean Motor Company, you will see the Logo is considered dead, no one owns the logo at this time, or has any legal claim to it under US law. At this time, there do not appear to be any new applications for the logo pending, so DMCH, even though they are using the logo actively in commerce, does not have a legal claim that would hold up in court. John VIN 1674 To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/