The upgrade window motors have a stop so that the window does not go down all the way the way the bracket on the bottom is arranged it holds it a bit high in the door and when the window comes down it hits the stop and puts a torque on the shaft and it twists out into the door panel By making a very minor bend in the shaft just before the elbow relieves it a lot and if you remount the motor a little it shifts the shaft down a hair and that also puts the elbo a bit lower and away from the door. You can also put a washer under the bracket where it attaches to the window thus also forcing the bar in and away from the skin. This is just a tweek and is not going to make a big move like the other adjustment. There are a few other things to do but we did about half of what I said above to Patricks car tonight and it barely touches now on the side that was about 1/4 inch interference. We will get it the rest when there is light kinda got dark Ken [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/