I built my own door openers two years ago using a remote entry shaved door kit I bought online for $60.00. It utilizes the large solenoids. It is very well hidden and I used the existing leftover wires in the door. It has worked flawlessly since and was almost a no brainer to modify and install. All modifications are completely invisible. It does have a safety interlock using a combination of doorlock position and key position. (Just a tricked-out relay) They won't inadvertently open while driving even if you press the remote button or in the event of component failure. (It will only fail on the side of safety) You can even open just the right, left or both door at once. The choice of actuator was purely happenstance That's what came with the kit. I'm sure if the kit came with motor driven units of proper specification, it would work just fine too. This isn't rocket science guys. However, if you are not mechanically inclined or just plain lazy, Darryl and many other creative guys give you a nice set of options and they stand behind their products. (Wouldn't it suck if there were only one brand of tires or motor oil?) They design it, test it, package it, guarantee it and mail it to you. All you have to do is pay for it , follow the instructions and not screw it up. Some guys like blondes and some guys like brunettes...pick an actuator and get it over with. Either way, there's nothing more impressive than watching those doors glide open by themselves! I recommend them highly! Rustproof 1559 ----- Original Message ----- From: "endotex23" <endotex23@xxxxxxxxx> To: <dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 11:12 PM Subject: [DML] door openers > > I usually remain a lurker but I wanted to comment on Darryl's post > about door openers. I installed a system years ago which included > alarm, remote start, keyless entry, and door opening in one combined > unit. I selected the control unit and motor driven actuators over > solenoids for specific reasons, mainly the ease in which they could > be intergrated into the car's existing wiring and the all-in-one > functionality. I rejected solenoids due to their weight, high inrush > current, and their suceptability to failure from insulation breakdown > caused by inductive kickback. The size required also prevents hidden > installation, something easily acomplished using geared motor driven > linear actuators > > As a machine design engineer I researched many types of actuators for > the proper specs and robustness and chose one particular brand after > studying everything available. It later turned out these are the same > units Darryl (now Toby) offers. They performed flawlessly since day > one and when the car was disposed of had nearly one thousand total > operations. (I know this because the system counted each door > operation.) > > Although I didn't get the actuators from Darryl or Toby, in deference > to the contributions they've both made to the D community I'll > decline from revealing the source. My point is you can have complete > faith in them. The Zilla design is vaporware and who knows how long > it'll be until it's a reality. And although it may offer plug and > play, installing Darryl's actuators aren't difficult. > > The other point I'll make is you should interlock the system to > prevent unintended door openings. (I'm not sure the Zilla design will > even offer such a feature.) You may forget to lock your doors and > even if you do the system should have a safety function built in. It > can be done many ways, the car I did wouldn't release the doors if > the speed was over 20 mph. There are simpler ways to implement this > interlock if you don't wish to sample speed. Darryl is right, why > wait for something that is available now and has a proven track > record? > > Just my two cents based on experience. > > Endotex23 > > > > > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: > moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx > > For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com > > To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/