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There are 25 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: turn signals
From: Delorean17@xxxxxxx
2. RE: Re: Trapped in a DeLorean?
From: "Kevin Abato" <delorean@xxxxxxxxx>
3. Insult?
From: "Kevin Abato" <delorean@xxxxxxxxx>
4. Re: Throttle Cover
From: srubano@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
5. Connecticut Delorean Owners
From: FEHRISMANN@xxxxxxx
6. nose bra postscript
From: deloreanernst@xxxxxxx
7. Stalking Responses
From: "B Benson" <delornut@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
8. Crashed DeLorean for sale
From: "Ulli" <ulli1105@xxxxxxxx>
9. Re: hard driving
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe@xxxxxxx>
10. Re: Castrol GTLMA DOT 4 Brake Fluid
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe@xxxxxxx>
11. Massachusetts DMCs
From: johndmc57@xxxxxxxxx
12. RubStrip/Door molding
From: "Murray Fisher" <murrayf@xxxxxxxxx>
13. Re: Trapped in a DeLorean?
From: srubano@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
14. Locked in / Bob Zilla
From: ZillaDelorean@xxxxxxx
15. Re: Trapped in a DeLorean?
From: Mike Substelny <msubstel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
16. Re: a few maybe related engine problems (long post!)
From: mark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
17. Big Foot
From: "Murray Fisher" <murrayf@xxxxxxxxx>
18. Squeeling sound from clutch
From: "Stian Birkeland" <delorean@xxxxxxxxx>
19. Dead pedal
From: "Lynn Metz" <metzlynn@xxxxxxxxxxx>
20. Torsionbars/struts/gullwing doors
From: "Stian Birkeland" <delorean@xxxxxxxxx>
21. Throttle cable sticking
From: shirazcupala@xxxxxxxx
22. Re: Trapped in a DeLorean?
From: "ian" <ian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
23. Re: Torsionbars/struts/gullwing doors
From: gus@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
24. Re: Re: door dings caused by window regulator
From: "Walter" <Whalt@xxxxxxx>
25. Re: lower door trim
From: "Walter" <Whalt@xxxxxxx>
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 22:05:14 EDT
From: Delorean17@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: turn signals
HI List,
I would like to thank everyone who responded to my post. It turns out my
flasher unit was bad. I went down the the local VW shop and got a new one
and now they work just fine.
Thank You
David
#6286
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 22:11:17 -0400
From: "Kevin Abato" <delorean@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: Re: Trapped in a DeLorean?
can u simply disconnect the battery? (I have a kill switch on my battery)
-----Original Message-----
From: gus@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gus@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 5:22 PM
To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [DML] Re: Trapped in a DeLorean?
Yes, you can certainly be trapped in a DMC.
The door locks are activated by rather large solenoids, controlled by
the lock module. The module is under-engineered and the relays can
stick when activated. This would keep the solenoids powered, and
being very large they are impossible to overpower manually.
Should this happen to you, you can:
a) wait for the solenoids to burn up
b) wait for the battery to go dead
c) unplug the lock module, in the relay box behind the passenger
or, buy the LockZilla, which replaces the stock module and restores
proper function. Either way, the factory module failure is a matter
of "when" and not "if" so you should unplug your module NOW until you
can get it updated.
Gus Schlachter
Austin, TX
4695
--- In dmcnews@xxxx, "Joe Thome" <joethome@xxxx> wrote:
> Hello List members,
> I find the possibility of being trapped in my DeLorean kind of scary
because of the cabin's rather cramped quarters. Is this really a
potential problem, and if so, Is there a remedy? If so, what is it?
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 22:29:10 -0400
From: "Kevin Abato" <delorean@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Insult?
I was somewhat floored about 2 weeks ago when at a light, two young people
of a foreign nationality were in the lane next to me in a landscaping truck.
(they had a heavy accent, and for Diversity reasons, I will not state their
nationality...GO Corporate diversity training!) They were admiring the DMC
and nodded to me and rolled down the window to ask me a question.
The question being: "Is that a Mazda?"
I was actually felt offended/insulted by their statement....
Normally people know better then that...they know it is an exotic sports
car, but have never called it a Mazda!
Then, in the back of my mind, I could just tell these are the same kind of
kids who would trick out a $8k Dodge Neon with $10k worth of silly add ons
just for fun.
I corrected them by telling them it was a Delorean, and then went on my
way....still slightly insulted
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 02:55:06 -0000
From: srubano@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Throttle Cover
You can get them from any Delorean parts vendor. It's the Throttle
recall shield.
--- In dmcnews@xxxx, wmack <wmack@xxxx> wrote:
> Where can i find the throttle spool cover? Last winter my throttle
cable
> frozen in its sheathing and i think that was were the water got in.
>
> Thanks
> Willie Mack
> Vin 5043
> DOA 5940
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 23:57:50 EDT
From: FEHRISMANN@xxxxxxx
Subject: Connecticut Delorean Owners
In case you didn't see my letter before, I will repeat myself.
Wouldn't it be great to find out how many Deloreans there are in
Connecticut? Who owns them? How close in location we are from each other?
Wouldn't it be fun to get as many Deloreans as possible in one place?
I'm sure we can do it at minimal to no cost if we meet at a popular
"cruise night" spot or at a popular landmark.
COME ON NOW! Don't be shy. I'm looking for more people to respond.
I've gotten six replies so far, but only three have running cars plus my own.
Don't worry, the worst thing that can happen is that you will meet other
owners and have fun.
If you are interested or have any suggestions, please e-mail me at
FEHRISMANN@xxxxxxxx You won't be sorry. Thanks.
Frank
Ridgefield, Ct
VIN: 16509
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 06:49:34 EDT
From: deloreanernst@xxxxxxx
Subject: nose bra postscript
Hi-
By today, those who ordered them either already got, or soon will have their
new Colgan Custom nose bras. Most of them went out 6 - 7 days ago. I'll do a
bulk order again next year if there's interest enough, and I may sell my own
spare new one on ebay (for full price of course,) just to see what interest
is out there off the DML.
Meanwhile, John Hervey has come forward to act as a stocking distributor. He
bought three. (He already had bought two for his own D's last year.) His web
address is <A HREF="" Apart from that, there aren't any other new
ones out there to be had. Congratulations to the select few who got them. I
hope they enjoy theirs as much as I have mine!
-Wayne
11174
Living the Dream!
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 06:03:36 -0500
From: "B Benson" <delornut@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Stalking Responses
There have been quite a number of similar "stalking" stories sent to the
list. They're almost all the same story with different locations, etc; so
I'm killing that thread.
Bruce, this week's moderator
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 11:58:46 -0000
From: "Ulli" <ulli1105@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: Crashed DeLorean for sale
Unfortunately i had an accident with my DeLorean VIN#03857. Most of
the right side is damaged. I have not the time and the motivation for
repairing the damage. For closer information look at the ad on
Yahoo-Auctions: http://de.auctions.yahoo.com/de/auction/1003610524
Also you can send me an email. Ich will answer all questions.
Ulli - ulli1105@xxxxxxxx
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 08:18:27 -0400
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: hard driving
Andy,
You asked:
"for some reason my battery light turns on when I have the engine way up there in RPM's."
This sounds like a "ground" problem, check all of the main electrical ground connections.
You also asked:
"can someone explain to me what the jerking is that is happening?
This may be related to the above electrical ground problem but more commonly this problem is a result of a problem with the fuel pick-up system inside your fuel tank.
DMC Joe
www.dmc.tv
"We're here to help you"
DMC Help / De Lorean Services / <dmchelp@xxxxxxx>
----- Original Message -----
From: Soma576@xxxxxxx
To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 8:32 AM
Subject: [DML] hard driving
Hey all,
last night i was in my girlfriend's driveway waiting for her (of course..
heh) and i noticed a strange behavior from my car. it's an '82 VIN11596,
manual tranny. i was in neutral, idling at about 2000 rpm. i slowly pushed
down on the gas, revving it up, because my car just got back on the road and
it's kind of weird for me to hear the car run perfectly again! i just wanted
to hear it roar!! so i floored it quickly, up to about 6000 rpm, then let
off and let it back down. i thought i noticed one of my dash lights flicker
when it was up there so i tried it again. and again. and again. for some
reason my battery light turns on when i have the engine way up there in
RPM's. then my girlfriend came out and yelled at me (it was 11pm in a quiet
neighborhood). for some reason she didn't understand the importance of my
experiment!! :-) why is this light coming on? i have the newer 130 amp
alternator with my stereo on quietly and my headlights on. that's it. seems
kind of odd....
also, i was bored one night on the way home from work around 3 am and i was
at a light way out in the middle of nowhere. my car was nice and warmed up
so i got a wild thought in my head - i'm going to try to squak the tires!
i'd done it before on accident but i thought it would be cool if i could
learn how to do it whenever i felt like it (childish intentions). no matter
how stupid it sounds, i just thought i'd try it, what the hell. well i took
it from dead stop with it in 1st gear, and revved it to around 3000 rpm and
took my foot off the clutch while depressing the gas a little bit more. all
that did was make the car jerk like crazy until i behaved a little nicer with
the pedals. i also tried just stomping the gas and releasing the clutch at
the same time. either it sort of worked but not enough power, or it made the
car jerk very violently. after about 3 tries i gave up because i didn't want
to break anything. can someone explain to me what the jerking is that is
happening? i don't know much about manual transmissions (the D is the only
manual i've ever owned) and i'm just curious - i want to know it all!!!
please pardon my childish stupidity!!
later,
Andy
Soma576@xxxxxxx
1982 DeLorean DMC-12 VIN#11596
Fargo, ND 58102
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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 08:19:03 -0400
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Castrol GTLMA DOT 4 Brake Fluid
John,
The DOT 4 brake fluid used in the DeLorean brake and clutch system is available at NAPA, simply ask for NAPA Heavy Duty Dot 4 Brake Fluid.
DMC Joe
www.dmc.tv
"We're here to help you"
DMC Help / De Lorean Services / <dmchelp@xxxxxxx>
----- Original Message -----
From: John L. Rahn
To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 10:32 AM
Subject: [DML] Castrol GTLMA DOT 4 Brake Fluid
Hello All,
Does anyone know where you can purchase the subject brake fluid? I
have tried NAPA, AutoZone, Menards, Farm & Fleet and several local
parts places with no luck.
Thanks in advance,
JR
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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 12:56:08 -0000
From: johndmc57@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: Massachusetts DMCs
I just put an 82 DMC back on the road, can anyone refer me to any
DMC clubs or organizations in Ma. where I could get information
on this car. I live in Plympton Ma.
John
JRC2905@xxxxxxx
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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 06:03:24 -0700
From: "Murray Fisher" <murrayf@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RubStrip/Door molding
Many thanks to everyone who responded to my query re how the Rub Strip
or body molding on the door was fastened and how to redo it after body work
in that area.
Murray Fisher
Vin: 05962
Lic: DMC-XII
WA STATE
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Message: 13
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 15:26:24 -0000
From: srubano@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Trapped in a DeLorean?
Yes you can. The idea is that you want to disconnect power going to
the door lock module so by using your cutoff switch on your battery,
you are doing the same thing. But be warned! If you reconnect the
battery without disconnecting the faulty lock module it will lock the
doors again and depending on how long the module applies power to the
solenoids it will burn up the solenoinds and the main wiring harness
going to the doors!! Trust me..(the module failed on a previous owner
of my D)..it's no fun to replace the main wiring harness in the doors
since you have to snake that thick harness through tight channels in
the door.
Steve
--- In dmcnews@xxxx, "Kevin Abato" <delorean@xxxx> wrote:
> can u simply disconnect the battery? (I have a kill switch on my
battery)
>
>
> Yes, you can certainly be trapped in a DMC.
>
> The door locks are activated by rather large solenoids, controlled
by
> the lock module. The module is under-engineered and the relays can
> stick when activated. This would keep the solenoids powered, and
> being very large they are impossible to overpower manually.
> Gus Schlachter
> Austin, TX
> 4695
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Message: 14
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 11:53:40 EDT
From: ZillaDelorean@xxxxxxx
Subject: Locked in / Bob Zilla
Thank you to all who suggested LockZilla.
In nearly a decade it has been shown to be 100% reliable.
However,
It is important to point out, you don't "NEED" one.
If you have an original door lock controller you can deactivate it by
unplugging the Heavy Red 12Ga wire from it to the circuit breaker. You will
loose your automatic function(s) but you will be completely safe in this
regard.
While many have mentioned that "if needed, you can reach around and unplug
it".
You are tempting fate.
The lock controller is under a carpet and below a rather large panel which is
often reluctant to come out. It is out of the reach of the driver so you'd be
climbing over the passenger to get to it.
In ANY emergency situation you will need to get out RIGHT NOW.
Often in an accident you are Dazed and confused.
Your "Brain has left the building". THIS IS NO TIME TO PLAY TECHNICIAN.
LockZilla was designed with this EXACT emergency scenario in mind:
Back in the 80's a friend with a D hit a pothole doing 65. He spun 360 and
came to rest on the side of the highway. He told me " I was dazed. My head
got banged around a bit. I couldn't unlock either door. The unlock buttons
were jammed shut.
A few minutes later the door opened easily. Weird !!"
MORAL:
If you have an original door lock controller unplug it.
As Gus (gus@xxxxxxxxxxxxx) so aptly put it ....."the factory module
failure is a matter of "when" and not "if" so you should unplug your module
NOW."
Don't put your safety or that of your passenger in jeopardy.
Just because it hasn't malfunctioned yet doesn't mean it won't.
DON'T FOOL AROUND
UNPLUG IT NOW
Bob Zilla
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Message: 15
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 12:33:39 -0400
From: Mike Substelny <msubstel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Trapped in a DeLorean?
When I first got my DeLorean I was trapped inside many times, and it had NOTHING
to do with the lock mechanism. It had to do with the fact that my doors often
closed out of alignment, making them jammed. They appeared to be closed
normally, but the latches were nowhere near the locking pins. Instead, the body
of the door was mashed between the front and rear locking pins.
When this happens it is very difficult to get out. Disconnecting the battery
does no good. The door handles and lock rockers have no effect. Only brute
force (or possibly a fast drive on a bumpy road) will get the door open. This
may take many strong men. At the same time, a door closed in this manner might
spring open at any moment, usually when you are cruising at 70 mph on the
freeway. This is a very frightening experience!
The original design of the gullwing doors was such that all DeLorean doors would
jam shut in this manner. It was very dangerous.
This was an awful problem for DMC. They solved it, though, when they invented
the door guides. All later DeLorean had door guides installed at the factory.
Earlier DeLoreans (like mine) can be easily retrofitted with proper door guides.
Because I had so many frightening experiences with my guideless doors, I look
for door guides on the cars at DeLorean events. I am happy to report that today
almost all DeLoreans have been fitted with proper door guides, but there are
still a few without them.
I did not appreciate it at the time, but when my DeLorean had no door guides it
was a death trap. Now that I have door guides my doors are safe and reliable.
If you are not sure whether your doors have guides or not, call your DMC parts
supplier or show up at any event with other DeLoreans and inspect their door
latch areas.
- Mike Substelny
VIN 01280, 8 years
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Message: 16
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 19:06:52 -0000
From: mark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: a few maybe related engine problems (long post!)
To Aaron and the list,
I believe (hope) your 'randomly will not start' problem can be fixed
by reading
www.dmcnews.com/Techsection/starterfix.html
The title, "Factory Starter Circuit Upgrade" says it all.
On early DeLoreans, prior to VIN 2547 needed this fix.
My July '81 DeLorean does the exact same thing yours does.
I personally have not tried this fix but I had better get to it.
Mark R. Vanyo
VIN #02261
Lic OUTATYM
Seattle, Washington
P.S. Then again you told me earlier that you had all the circuit
breakers updated. I wonder if the starter circuit my have already
been fixed?
--- In dmcnews@xxxx, "Aaron King" <floodle@xxxx> wrote:
#2: Randomly will not start. Not too often, but often enough to be
annoying, the car will not start. I get in, turn the key, and
nothing happens. I hear the familiar two-second hum, and all the
accessories (radio, lights, etc.) come on, but the car does not turn
over at all. Usually I try to start it a few more times, but
nothing. I sit and wait for a couple of seconds, then try again and
it starts right up like nothing was wrong. This appears to occur
when the engine is colder, but it has happened when the engine was
hot. This has happened off and on since I started driving the car.
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Message: 17
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 06:15:58 -0700
From: "Murray Fisher" <murrayf@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Big Foot
My size 13 foot on my automatic rests on the accelerator pedal and also on
the brake pedal simultaneously, unless I watch it carefully. Seems like
someone came up with a solution for this for people with big feet. Has
anyone made any mod? Like maybe a different brake pedal that is narrower
in width and if so how much work is it to change it, or alter it?
Murray Fisher
Vin: 05962
Lic: DMC-XII
Walla Walla WA
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Message: 18
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 23:02:15 +0200
From: "Stian Birkeland" <delorean@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Squeeling sound from clutch
dmcrearHi there,
Quite recently Ive noticed that the clutch is squeeling when the clutch pedal is pressed. Not a high pitched sound, more like a low pitch sound but still annoying. Almost like "something somewhere is rubbing something"
Last year the clutch fluid was changed with correct spec. I also upgraded to the stainless braided clutch line. I have no troubles shifting gears, yet the squeeling sound tells me something isnt quite right.
What parts do I need? And what causes the #"¤%! sound??
Best wishes :)
Stian Birkeland
Flekkefjord, Norway
VIN # 06759
Web: http://home.online.no/~stianfb/
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Message: 19
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 14:58:13 -0700
From: "Lynn Metz" <metzlynn@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Dead pedal
Can someone please post a pic of the dead pedal installed in the car. My
car has a metal piece for it, but is missing the rubber. I would like to
see what it should look like.
Thanks
Brian 16584
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Message: 20
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 23:36:15 +0200
From: "Stian Birkeland" <delorean@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Torsionbars/struts/gullwing doors
dmcrearHmm... Are my doors very strange or is this the way they all work on your DeLorean?
This summer I had a much needed torsion bar adjustment. The struts are also new. The adjustment was done by professionals.
What happens is this: In warm weather (above 20 degrees Celcius) the doors open with no problems and stay up. Wow! I have never experienced that before. MAGIC! So far so good....
Now, if the temperature is below that, the doors don't open fully, yet you can help with your hand and the doors will stay up! (Earlier on - before the torsion bar adjustment - they drooped and wouldn't stay up)
Living in Norway, we have a mild climate yet the temperature is often below 20 degrees because of the cold winds and weather we have where I live. I drive my DeLorean only in the spring-summer-and early autumn. This means that on an average my doors won't open up fully 75% of the time, the last 25% being the hot summer we have here and where the temperature is above 20 degrees. Then the doors will work as intended.
So - will my gullwing doors forever be "handicapped" 75% of the time because of the cold wind and temperature, or is there a cure for my problems??? Don't say I have to move to a warmer climate? ;-)
I have thought of putting more torsion on the doors, but then I'm afraid that the doors really will "bounce off" when once in awhile the temperature rises above 20 degrees.
In other words - PLEASE ADVICE! I don't really believe that the DeLorean was made only for warmer climates (read: california/texas).
I've never been disappointed with anything on my DeLorean, but if this is how the doors are supposed work and are sensitive to cold, and can not be made to function 100%, then I think I for the first time is disappointed with my DeLorean.
NOW - Someone, please tell me that this isn't so, and that some of you out there knows exactly how to do the right trick so that the doors will function 100% at all time. I'd love to hear from you owners living up in the North of America / Canada. How are your doors performing???
Best wishes :)
Stian Birkeland
Flekkefjord, Norway
VIN # 06759
Web: http://home.online.no/~stianfb/
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Message: 21
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 22:08:59 -0000
From: shirazcupala@xxxxxxxx
Subject: Throttle cable sticking
Lately my accelerator pedal has been very stiff. I have traced this
to the cable. Most of the time I have to push the pedal down fairly
far before the cable will get unstuck and move the throttle. However
this is very bad because then it then surges extremely suddenly and
if I don't hold the clutch in it sends a powerful jolt of power to
the tranny. I can't believe that's good for the car so I am very
careful in how I push the pedal down and handle the clutch. Of
course this makes it really hard to drive (daily) and it's extra work
on the clutch.
So, my question is how do I lubricate the cable? I'm worried about
pulling the cable out of the sleeve because of the U turn it takes in
the footwell. I'm worried that I won't be able to feed it back in if
I have it out. Any suggestions?
Thanks in advance,
shiraz
#2860
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Message: 22
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 06:11:45 +0800
From: "ian" <ian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Trapped in a DeLorean?
> This was an awful problem for DMC. They solved it, though, when they
invented
> the door guides. All later DeLorean had door guides installed at the
factory.
> Earlier DeLoreans (like mine) can be easily retrofitted with proper door
guides.
My later car vin.06425 has door guides fitted (but actually the sticking
door syndrom still occurs!).
I wanted to install door guides on my early car vin.00780 and bought a set
off Ebay. When I tried to install them the door latch, screw points, and
door body all seemed different? Are the early/later doors different? Are
there door guides for the early doors?
Thanks, IAN
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Message: 23
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 22:52:14 -0000
From: gus@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Torsionbars/struts/gullwing doors
If the struts are new, then your torsion bars need to go up a notch.
If this makes the doors bounce at the top, then you need to get the
struts that have the "brakes" built into them. My doors open fine
when it gets "cold" here (40F, ha ha) and go FLYING up when the car
has been baking the Texas heat, but they still don't bounce because
the struts stop the travel slowly.
The struts installed on my car by the previous owner bounced; the ones
I got from my local DMC parts supplier do not.
Gus Schlachter
Austin, TX
4695
--- In dmcnews@xxxx, "Stian Birkeland" <delorean@xxxx> wrote:
> What happens is this: In warm weather (above 20 degrees Celcius) the
doors open with no problems and stay up. Wow! I have never experienced
that before. MAGIC! So far so good....
>
> Now, if the temperature is below that, the doors don't open fully,
yet you can help with your hand and the doors will stay up! (Earlier
on - before the torsion bar adjustment - they drooped and wouldn't
stay up)
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Message: 24
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 19:12:38 -0400
From: "Walter" <Whalt@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Re: door dings caused by window regulator
>Could you tell me what
>the "dry ice" method of trying to remove the dents is all about?
It might be mentioned in the DML archives, but I don't remember. A local
friend (now moved back to Poland) told me that small dents can be removed
from sheet metal by placing dry ice on the dent for a while. He told me
that he bought some dry ice from a local grocery (Kash'n Karry) and tried it
himself with some success on his DeLorean. I never thought that grocery
stores would sell dry ice! I never thought to look.
Walt Tampa, FL
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Message: 25
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 19:31:56 -0400
From: "Walter" <Whalt@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: lower door trim
I think your problem might be that the door panel is still connected at the
grab handle. If this is the case then disconnect it by removing two bolts.
You access them over the top of the lower panel, and you will need to
slightly push some of the latch mechanism rods out of the way to get a 10mm
socket & extension on them.
Walt Tampa, FL
-----Original Message-----
From: wmack <wmack@xxxxxx>
To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 5:59 PM
Subject: [DML] lower door trim
>How do you remove the lower piece of door trim? I can get all the plastic
>trees out (at least all the ones i can see). But something is still
keeping
>it on.
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