I think your problem might be that the door panel is still connected at the grab handle. If this is the case then disconnect it by removing two bolts. You access them over the top of the lower panel, and you will need to slightly push some of the latch mechanism rods out of the way to get a 10mm socket & extension on them. Walt Tampa, FL -----Original Message----- From: wmack <wmack@xxxx> To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 5:59 PM Subject: [DML] lower door trim >How do you remove the lower piece of door trim? I can get all the plastic >trees out (at least all the ones i can see). But something is still keeping >it on.