dmcnews-digest Sunday, February 15 1998 Volume 03 : Number 330
In this issue:
DML: DeLorean Models
Re: DML: Is a DeLorean a "typical" 80s car?
DML: Tenth Annual All British Car Day - March 15, 1998
DML: Re: Stainless Steel
DML: Stainless Steel
Re: DML: DeLorean Models
Re: DML: Re: Stainless Steel
Re: DML: Stainless Steel
Re: DML: Stainless Steel
Re: DML: Automatic Battery cutoff?
DML: RE: DeLoreans in movies
DML: Do you live near Chequered Flag Int'l?
Re: DML: Stainless Steel
Re: DML: DeLorean Models
DML: Latest DeCO newsletter posted - historical DMC-12 price data
Re: DML: Do you live near Chequered Flag Int'l?
DML: Mail System Error - Returned Mail
DML: Lambda counter
DML: Re: Stainless Steel
Re: DML: Lambda counter
DML: Re: Lambda counter
DML: Delorean Motor Club
DML: Algae Problem
DML: Bob Brandys
DML: interior room
Re: DML: Algae Problem
Re: DML: Delorean Motor Club
DML: Re: Algae problem
Re: DML: Algae Problem
Re: DML: Delorean Motor Club
DML: Re: Algae problem
Re: DML: interior room
DML: 1983 DeLorean For Sale
DML: Hoosier DeLorean
DML: 2nd Door Switch
DML: Re: Stainless Steel Cars
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Date: Tue, 10 Feb 98 23:36:45 MST
From: "Jeff Phillips, x4300" <PhillipsJT00.CS33.USAFA@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: DeLorean Models
Anyone who is interested in buying a model from HobbyLink Japan at
http://www.iac.co.jp/~hlj, they just sent a message saying they had the
models in stock. These are the "donor" models that you need for the
earlier reproduction DeLorean kits. It only took about 2 weeks from time
of backorder to time in-stock incase they stock them on a demand basis.
Jeff Phillips
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Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 00:57:28 -0500
From: bttfdmc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: DML: Is a DeLorean a "typical" 80s car?
If anybody ever saw the sitcom, "Married with Children," an episode
which the main character made references to each decade since the 60's
I believe, mention a DeLorean in the 80's.
>Why do the producers think a DeLorean will make their audience
>nostalgic for the 80s?
Well, when you think of the 80's, you think of movies... Back to the
Future. You also then think of the DeLorean trial. In my opinion,
these things are what made the DeLorean famous.
>Except for car enthusiasts, most people I meet
>don't even realize that the DeLorean was only made in the 80s. The
>dimmer ones (most likely to go to an Adam Sandler movie) think it's been
>made since the 70s, and that its still in production!
Most people I meet think that the DeLorean was only a ficticious car
made up for the Back to the Future films, and that no such car like
this really even existed and was available to the public to buy.
Randy Atamaniuk
Vin#16353
At 09:10 AM 2/10/98 -0500, you wrote:
>Last night Comedy Central ran an infomercial type show about "The
>Wedding Singer." The movie is set in the 80s, and the producers wanted
>to fill it with things to make the audience nostalgic for that decade.
>They
>even ran through a list of the things they put in the movie to make the
>audience harken back to the 80s.
>
>Prominent on that list was the DeLorean.
>
>Why do the producers think a DeLorean will make their audience
>nostalgic for the 80s? Except for car enthusiasts, most people I meet
>don't even realize that the DeLorean was only made in the 80s. The
>dimmer ones (most likely to go to an Adam Sandler movie) think it's been
>made since the 70s, and that its still in production!
>
>I think the producers really blew it. If they wanted to make people
>remember the 80s, they should have put him in a Japanese car like a
>Supra or a 300ZX.
>
>Still, It will be nice to see the DeLorean. I hope it makes a good
>impression.
>
>- Mike Substelny
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Date: Wed, 11 Feb 98 12:22:45 -0700
From: James Espey <espey@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Tenth Annual All British Car Day - March 15, 1998
Tenth Annual All British Car Day - March 15, 1998
Great show held in downtown Phoenix, Arizona. Last year had four
DeLoreans, including one from Tucson. Pre-registration is $15 before Feb
23, $25 after that.
If interested in attending, email me and I will send you details.
James Espey
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Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 14:30:13 -0500
From: Mike Griese <magriese@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: Stainless Steel
There are a number of reasons cars are not made of stainless steel.
Stainless is difficult to work into the variety of shapes required for
cars.
This is listed as one of the reasons the hoods changed over the production
run.
Stainless steel is brittle when compared to the steel used in cars.
Note that the DeLorean stainless body panels are not structural - they are
applied over a fiberglass body structure.
Stainless is difficult to paint. Personally, I think one of the reasons
the
DeLorean did not succeed was the fact that by and large, they all look
exactly the same. Not a good property for a market that loves
personalized
vehicles.
Stainless can be difficult to repair. The DeLorean finish is pretty much
maintenance free until you get hit. Creases are almost impossible to
hide,
tears can't be repaired without discoloring the surrounding metal.
Michael A. Griese
IBM Storage Systems Division
Rochester, MN 55901
Internet: magriese@xxxxxxxxxx
voice: (507)253-1853
fax: (507)253-2880
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Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 15:38:46 -0500 (EST)
From: "Sean P Mullally" <mullally@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Stainless Steel
The average consumer likes colors. That is why all cars are not painted
black
anymore, and it was also why DMC was planning on starting to paint some
of their
cars before they went bankrupt. Bare stainless steel makes our cars
unique, but
imagine if most cars out their were bare metal. People would want a
varity of
color.
As for the rust factor, well, I hate to be cynical, but what do consumers
do
when they buy a car and it rusts after four years. They trade it in on a
new
one! Now what would those same consumers do if after 10 years the car
still
looked like new? Put yourself in the automaker's place. They are in the
business of selling us disposable cars. It would be bad business to
increase
the lifespan of their products.
- -Sean Mullally
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Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 14:56:29 -0600
From: Jordan Gary <jordang@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: DeLorean Models
I tried to find this model at the web site that Jeff gave. They do no
have a
search feature and I got tired of looking blindly through their listings.
Please tell us more. Also what is a "donor" model.
Jeff Phillips, x4300 wrote:
> Anyone who is interested in buying a model from HobbyLink Japan at
> http://www.iac.co.jp/~hlj, they just sent a message saying they had the
> models in stock. These are the "donor" models that you need for the
> earlier reproduction DeLorean kits. It only took about 2 weeks from time
> of backorder to time in-stock incase they stock them on a demand basis.
>
> Jeff Phillips
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Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 21:09:18 +0000
From: The DMC-12 <msg101@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Re: Stainless Steel
Mike Griese wrote:
> There are a number of reasons cars are not made of stainless steel.
>
(SNIP)
If we're talking the rust-free properties of Stainless Steel, remember
that
plastics have come a long way since the design of the D and many cars now
use
FRP panels - cheaper, lighter AND easy to paint/repair.
Doesn't look as good, though, does it?
Martin
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Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 18:50:25 -0800 (PST)
From: David <czebotar@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Stainless Steel
On Tue, 10 Feb 1998, steve r wrote:
> had. Which i feel this is very true. But still, why hasn't any other
> companies ever attempted to produce a stainless steal car. I think it
> would
> be a major benifit. After all, it doesn't need paint and it doesn't rust.
>
The 1936 Ford by Allegheny Ludlum was stainless steel. Built to promote
the virtue of stainless steel as a body material. As for why stainless
steel is not used on more cars, The ratio varies a bit but stainless steel
usually costs about 5 times more that standard sheet metal. Its harder to
paint also and people like variety
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Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 22:32:52 -0500
From: Richard Strecker <dmc1219@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Stainless Steel
And the manufacturer doesn't sell too many new cars if the
old ones last......
MO
Richard
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Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 21:28:17 PST
From: "Jim Plamondon" <saab82@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Automatic Battery cutoff?
Hi this Jim P. in Iowa.
I see that battery on the DeLorean go's died a lot (I don't know if this
is right?).
And I was wounder if you guys can help me. I read about battery buddy
or batter
saver, is what you use, or something like it to prevent a battery going
died?
I else would like to know what or if alarm system to use on the "D".
I would like to get one put in, that has keyless entry, remote start and
ect......
Do they make any thing like this that would not hurt the car.
The car is 81, automantic (I wanted a stick, to bad, but it is still a
"D"), and
I don't know the VIN#, still in the shop getting checked out.
Jim P.
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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 16:57:05 +1100
From: "Troy R. Haslewood" <delorean@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: RE: DeLoreans in movies
I remember seeing one of Tim Robbins early films (mid eighties I think)
and
a DeLorean was in a scene. Ofcouse, it was only on screen for less than
two
seconds, but at least it was in the movie. I can't remember what it was
called, but the scene in question involved Robbins driving a jeep and
turning into a drive way, and parked next to the drive way was a DeLorean.
Troy R. Haslewood,
Sydney Australia
http://www.zip.com.au/~delorean/
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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 14:30:20 +0100
From: "Daniel Gracia" <dagra@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Do you live near Chequered Flag Int'l?
Hello!
I'm Daniel again.
First of all, thanks everybody!. Your advice has been very, very useful to
me ;-)
Well. I'm writting back again because I need some help. I have received
some
photos of a DeLorean from Chequered Flag Int'l (Marina del Rey,
California).
It looks great on photo, but I still wondering if it would be a right
choice
(remember that I live in Spain, and cannot go there and check it!). So I'm
looking for any skilled local owner, that maybe would go there and tell me
if it's worth $13,000.
Can anybody help me?
Thanks!!!
- ---
Daniel Gracia
e-mail: dagra@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 08:37:52 -0600
From: Bill Marcussen <billmarcussen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Stainless Steel
Sean P Mullally wrote:
> As for the rust factor, well, I hate to be cynical, but what do consumers
> do when they buy a car and it rusts after four years. They trade it in on a
> new one! Now what would those same consumers do if after 10 years the car
> still looked like new? Put yourself in the automaker's place. They are in
> the business of selling us disposable cars. It would be bad business to
> increase the lifespan of their products.
I beg to differ with Sean, but I believe that maintenance and reliability
concerns, new safety and comfort features, and styling influence
replacement
of an automobile far more than body panel deterioration. The use of steel
for the majority of body panels is primarily a matter of economics and
performance. The market place (typical consumer) does not assign
sufficient
value-added to offset the additional costs of using alternative materials
in
most cars. Cars such as the Corvette are successful because of their
market
niche. However, Camry or Taurus wouldn't stand a competitive chance with
a
more expensive body.
Bill
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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 09:40:40 -0500 (EST)
From: Dan <dan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: DeLorean Models
> I tried to find this model at the web site that Jeff gave. They do no
> have a
> search feature and I got tired of looking blindly through their listings.
> Please tell us more. Also what is a "donor" model.
>
> Jeff Phillips, x4300 wrote:
>
> > Anyone who is interested in buying a model from HobbyLink Japan at
> > http://www.iac.co.jp/~hlj
Under manufacturers, click on Aoshima then Sci-fi.
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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 98 07:40:00 PST
From: Knut S Grimsrud <Knut_S_Grimsrud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Latest DeCO newsletter posted - historical DMC-12 price data
I just uploaded the latest issue of the DeLorean Club of Oregon
newsletter. It (and several other) newsletters can be found in the
Oregon club tab of the FAQ accessible via www.dmcnews.com
In this issue I have included the historical DMC price data that I
obtained through CPI (Cars of Particular Interest) which covers
average selling prices for DMC-12's in three different quality
conditions since 1983. Also in this issue is Bob Brandy's engine
replacement article (probably not new to those who diligently read the
list) with some nice photos of his finished work. Enjoy.
Knut Grimsrud
DeLorean Club of Oregon
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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 09:13:37 -0700
From: "Aaron Barrus" <ASBARRUS@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Do you live near Chequered Flag Int'l?
I have not see the car either, but I do know that it has been for sale at
=
Chequered Flag for over a year. That may hint that it is not a good deal.
Aaron
>>> "Daniel Gracia" <dagra@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 02/12 6:30 AM >>>
<snip>
. . .(remember that I live in Spain, and cannot go there and check it!).
=
So I'm
looking for any skilled local owner, that maybe would go there and tell me
if it's worth $13,000.
Can anybody help me?
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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 20:59:49 +0000
From: Mail Administrator <Postmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Mail System Error - Returned Mail
There are pictures of this car posted on their web site, located at:
Lots of pictures.. The Delorean looks in good shape but the front
plastic face looks rather warped. This is something I've seen a lot
of in pictures of other peoples cars. I suppose it's caused by heat
from sitting out in the sun and from the headlights?
Ken Montgomery
VIN #10911
> >>> "Daniel Gracia" <dagra@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 02/12 6:30 AM >>>
> <snip>
> . . .(remember that I live in Spain, and cannot go there and check it!).
> =
> So I'm
> looking for any skilled local owner, that maybe would go there and tell me
> if it's worth $13,000.
> Can anybody help me?
>
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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 16:41:00 EST
From: dmcnut@xxxxxxxx (DeLorean Nut)
Subject: DML: Lambda counter
If my Lambda counter (white plastic box on steering column) reads "020",
as far as I know that means that 20% of the unit's life is used up.
Correct? And at what intervals (miles, hours, etc) should I replace the
unit? Thanks.
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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 17:56:07 -0400
From: skynet@xxxxxxxx (skynet)
Subject: DML: Re: Stainless Steel
Just to add my few words...
NOW cars are being manufactured using GALVANIZED STEEL wich does increase
the life span of the car.
How long does a FENCE (made of galvanized steel) last ?
General Motors and Izusu (among others) are manufacturing cars with those
materials.
J.J.
dmc-12@xxxxxxx
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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 98 17:30:47 PST
From: "Brandon S. Moody" <bsmoody@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Lambda counter
> If my Lambda counter (white plastic box on steering column) reads "020",
> as far as I know that means that 20% of the unit's life is used up.
> Correct? And at what intervals (miles, hours, etc) should I replace the
> unit? Thanks.
IF the following are true:
1) never tampered with
2) never reset
3) spedo works
4) spedo has always worked
Then, you probably have approx 6K miles on your car ?
Or, 20% of 30K miles has been driven. which is, the approximate
mileage which the LAMBDA Probe should be replaced. So,
that doesn't mean that the probe should be replaced or the
"unit" which I assumed that you were refering to the actual
counter. It can be reset. In other words, if your car runs well,
and doesn't use more fuel than it suppose to, then don't touch it.
- -Brandon
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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 16:50:45 -0600
From: "Jameel Ahed" <ahed@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: Lambda counter
The lambda counter's life never gets used up unless it is damaged.. That
thing counts untill your car hits around 30,000 which means the 30,000
mile
service should be done, (O2 sensor and other stuff) You just turn back
the
counter using a paper clip or other pronged tool.
Jameel Ahed CEO of CyberTECH Industries
Consultant for VOITECH Computer Solutions
HOMEPAGE: http://www.students.uiuc.edu/~ahed/
VOITECH: http://www.voitech.com
EMAIL: mailto:ahed@xxxxxxxx
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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 19:34:17 EST
From: WINGD2@xxxxxxx
Subject: DML: Delorean Motor Club
Last year a couple guys started a new Delorean club based out of Las
Vegas. This was a kind of a spin off from the DOA, which it seems many
people
have become unhappy with. This club is called the "Delorean Motor Club".
I,
along with others I have spoken with, sent in my membership dues ( $45 if
I
remember right) and recieved my membership card and a couple decals. And
that's been the extent of what I've seen or heard from this club. Is it
just
me, or is this the way all Delorean clubs are supposed to opperate ? Can
someone tell me if I'm missing something here ? Maybe I somehow got
dropped
from their list. Has anyone else seen or heard anything ? Thanks, Marty
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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 19:27:43 -0500
From: steve r <stephenr@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Algae Problem
A few days ago a friend of mine told me about algae growing on her uncle's
DeLorean. I am concerned about this and am worried that i might one day
purchase a DeLorean that may have this problem. Are there any ways to
avoid
algae? Does it clean off easily without hurting the stainless steel? Any
info my fellow DML's could provide would be greatly appreciated.
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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 17:52:53 -0800
From: Matt Peak <mpeak@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Bob Brandys
Bob Brandys, would you please contact me. I am having trouble reaching
you
via e-mail.
Matt Peak
mpeak@xxxxxxxx
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Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 10:23:59 -0500
From: cadillacsrme@xxxxxxxx (christopher a posey)
Subject: DML: interior room
Is the interior of the D roomy enough for big people? I am looking to buy
a D, not for primary use, but just for weekend drives, and to fix up. I
am 6'6", 270. Is there enough headroom for someone of my height. Also I
see D's w/ 20k +- miles and they seem to be reasonibly cheap ($13,000) Is
this a good deal or should I stay away. I do not want to spend more than
$15k. What kind of condition should I expect? I do not expect a perfect
car, but I do want one that would not have to have much repair work.
AP
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Date: Fri, 13 Feb 98 12:01:03 PST
From: "Brandon S. Moody" <bsmoody@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Algae Problem
> A few days ago a friend of mine told me about algae growing on her uncle's
> DeLorean. I am concerned about this and am worried that i might one day
> purchase a DeLorean that may have this problem. Are there any ways to
> avoid
> algae? Does it clean off easily without hurting the stainless steel? Any
> info my fellow DML's could provide would be greatly appreciated.
A delorean that has sat long enough and in conditions where algae growth
is possible, then its probably not been taken care of. I have seen this
happen
before. There is a D approx 30 miles from my home that has sat in the
owners
front yard under trees for 12 years and never moved. From a distance,
the
car appears to be a "green" car. Due to the Growth of Moss and Fungus.
It can also happen inside the car under the seats and rear deck if water
leaks
into the car and is alowed to sit.
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Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 13:08:30 -0500
From: "Mr. Delaney" <jrd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Delorean Motor Club
> Last year a couple guys started a new Delorean club based out of Las
> Vegas. This was a kind of a spin off from the DOA, which it seems many
> people have become unhappy with. This club is called the "Delorean Motor
> Club".
> Maybe I somehow got dropped from their list. Has anyone else seen or heard
> anything ? Thanks, Marty
Marty, I too am a member of the "DeLorean Motor Club". Ive had the exact
same
experience you had. I sent in my membership fee got, a membership card,
RPM to
MPH chart & a few decals in the mail, & haven't heard from them since. I
hope
they haven't shut down. Does anyone on the list know who runs the
"DeLorean
Motor Club"? Id kinda like to find out where my $45 has gone.
Jeremy Delaney
no vin yet : (
If ya get a chance visit my page
http://www.angelfire.com/md/Delorean/index.html
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Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 10:42:14 -0500
From: Mike Substelny <SUBSTEM@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: Algae problem
Steve R. said:
> "A few days ago a friend of mine told
> me about algae growing on her uncle's
> DeLorean."
That is a new one for me! You say algae, as
in oceanic plant life? . . . on a DeLorean?
This probably has nothing to do with the
DeLorean and everything to do with how it
was stored. If you can, please post details
of this aquatic storage arrangement so we
can understand how this happened.
Her Uncle's stainless steel should not
suffer too much from the algae. Clean it
carefully and immediately. If mild soap
doesn't do it, then try strong soap. If the
algae remains you might try a mild, solvent
like diluted rubbing alcohol (don't spill on
non-stainless parts). If it remains, post
again to the DML for stronger suggestions.
Don't worry, Steve, I am sure you will have
no trouble finding an algae-free DeLorean
when the time comes.
- - Mike Substelny
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Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 14:03:24 EST
From: BKiroy@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: DML: Algae Problem
Algae can accumulate on a D if the car is not kept in an environment such
as a
garage or any other place that moisture is not controled. Cleaning it off
can
be tricky. If it is fairly fresh, it can often be wiped off. I had a
similar
problem with my own D. I used a small algae brush that you can find at a
pet
shop. It didn't seem to hurt.
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Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 13:08:30 -0500
From: "Mr. Delaney" <jrd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Delorean Motor Club
> Last year a couple guys started a new Delorean club based out of Las
> Vegas. This was a kind of a spin off from the DOA, which it seems many
> people have become unhappy with. This club is called the "Delorean Motor
> Club".
> Maybe I somehow got dropped from their list. Has anyone else seen or heard
> anything ? Thanks, Marty
Marty, I too am a member of the "DeLorean Motor Club". Ive had the exact
same
experience you had. I sent in my membership fee got, a membership card,
RPM to
MPH chart & a few decals in the mail, & haven't heard from them since. I
hope
they haven't shut down. Does anyone on the list know who runs the
"DeLorean
Motor Club"? Id kinda like to find out where my $45 has gone.
Jeremy Delaney
no vin yet : (
If ya get a chance visit my page
http://www.angelfire.com/md/Delorean/index.html
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Date: Fri, 13 Feb 98 15:16:23 -0500
From: "Rob Corkum" <rob.corkum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: Algae problem
Mike and/or list members,
Mike Substelny on 2/13/98 10:42 AM said:
> If the algae remains you might try a mild, solvent
> like diluted rubbing alcohol (don't spill on
> non-stainless parts).
Typically if this happens from either alcohol or a solvent
like acetone getting on plastic, it will dis-color it --
lightening where contact was made.
My question is if anyone has some industry secrets or
technique to reverse the process or otherwise fix it?
Any plastic experts out there? *grin*
Thanks!
//Rob//
rob.corkum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
vin 1723, DOA, DMCC
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Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 13:47:44 -0800 (PST)
From: thomas reed <reedted@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: interior room
I'd be more concerned about legroom than headroom- I have a flatmate who
is
6' 8", and weighs under 200 lbs. He can ride in the passenger seat of my
D
with no problem, and can drive without a headroom issue, but his knees
tend to
hit the steering wheel when he drives it. Since you're a little
shorter than he is, but with a larger build, you might experience the
legroom
problem as well. Before you buy, I'd defineitly drive it, and see
if you feel like your knees are hitting the steering wheel. The price you
mentioned seems in the right ballpark, maybe even a little on the cheap
side.
Of course, condition can vary widely, and the miles aren't always
accurate.
Some D's have a problem which causes the odometer to stop moving forward-
I
suspect my own of having perhaps more miles on it than the 22K shown.
Good luck.
Edward Reed
VIN #3117
>
> Is the interior of the D roomy enough for big people? I am looking to buy
> a D, not for primary use, but just for weekend drives, and to fix up. I
> am 6'6", 270. Is there enough headroom for someone of my height. Also I
> see D's w/ 20k +- miles and they seem to be reasonibly cheap ($13,000) Is
> this a good deal or should I stay away. I do not want to spend more than
> $15k. What kind of condition should I expect? I do not expect a perfect
> car, but I do want one that would not have to have much repair work.
> AP
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Date: Fri, 13 Feb 98 15:32:53 -0700
From: James Espey <espey@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: 1983 DeLorean For Sale
1983 DeLorean, gray, five-speed, #15482, August 1982 build month. 65K
miles, one owner car, bought new from Consolidated. Runs and drives good,
some body damage on drivers quarter panel (new quarter panel available).
170mph speedo, sheepskins, wide black dealer optional stripe, a lot of
historical stuff and memorabilia. Good driver now, needs some interior
pieces and cosmetics to make a great car out of it. Owner motivated, but
will not give the car away. CALL ME if you are interested, if you don't
have the money for a phone call, you probably don't have the money to buy
this car anyway. I have no financial interest in this car, but want to
help the owner sell the car.
James Espey
602/464-1085
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Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 18:20:25 EST
From: DGA7782@xxxxxxx
Subject: DML: Hoosier DeLorean
More information on the DeLorean for sale in Gary, Indiana that was posted
earlier this month. After a cursory look-over I found it to be solid
(everything is there) but it is in need of work. It's an '81 with 25,000
miles. The stainless steel panels are all in place with some minor dents
spread about in one or two places. All of the plastic trim is in good
condition aside from the poorly repainted fascia around the grill. The
interior is weathered with cracking on the dash, loose panels and ripped
seats. (Black interior) The underside shows signs of age and abuse with
rust
taking over most of the chassis. Appears to have been driven frequently
over
salt-covered roads. The engine runs except I didn't get to check it
myself,
but judging from the rest of the car, I would guess it needs serious work
to
bring it up to speed. The car is parked in front of a restaurant and is
used
as a lure for customers. Considering it's used for this purpose leads me
to
believe the owner has had problems with it and is willing to let it die
as a
source of advertisement. The owner is selling it for $10,000 and
obviously is
trying to find anyone gullible enough to pay for it. He can probably be
talked down if dealt with reasonably. Covered in inch-thick dust and
open to
the elements, this car won't survive long. I have directions, more info
and
the VIN number if interested.
Contact Kevin at DGA7782@xxxxxxx
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Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 17:31:19 -0800
From: "Ryan Bennett" <rpbennet@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: 2nd Door Switch
Can anyone tell me what the second door switch on the driver's side is
for?
The bottom one triggers the lights, but the top one doesn't seem to do
anything. Is there a door buzzer or something that's not working?
Thanks,
Ryan Bennett
VIN# 1085
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Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 23:20:04 EST
From: emoreau@xxxxxxxx (Earl A Moreau)
Subject: DML: Re: Stainless Steel Cars
In ansewer to your question, the Delorean was not the first car to be
made using stainless steel. They just had an interesting article in the
Delorean World magazine. I had heard this before but had never seen
prof. It appears that Ford, nearly 60 years ago produced 6 deluxe sedans
using nickel stainless steel for the bodies in a joint experiment with
Allegheny Ludlum Corporation, who incidentally had supplied the
stainless for the pinnacle of the Chrysler Building in New York in 1929
and was looking for other markets to develop. In addition to this the
Ford 1930 model A had stainless used in the radiator shell. In 1936 Ford
made six model A's of that four or still known to have survived. They
also produced two 60's Ford Thunderbirds and two 67 Lincoln Continental
convertibles. There is a black and whit photo of three of the cars in
the book, and they look remarkable.
Earl Moreau #3002
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