John, Regarding removing the door headliners, I use a couple of thin metal scrapers or pallet knives and slide them along each side of the "fir Tree" fasteners, then very gently ease each one out a little and move your war around slowly, little by little until they all start coming our. If your rough with them you will break, what is the glorified cardboard backing. I know Martin stiffens them up with F/glass resin before re-installation. I've never removed the large one....it does need re-doing on Delores, but I keep putting it off! Chris Parnham -----Original Message----- From: jchapelhow [mailto:chapelhow@xxxx] Sent: 02 September 2003 20:58 To: doc-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [doc] Headliners All. OK, I have droopy headliner syndrome on the passenger side. I have the spray adhesive on order. I visited Dave H and purchased a roll of material which *exactly* matches the colour on my car (`Boeing' has a black interior but the headliner is pale-mid grey, Dave offered me the correct dark grey but I think it would make the cabin darker, that maybe a small concession from `stock' but I am still debating). All of the other areas covered by my headliner, the `T' section and drivers door seem to have more spongy stuff behind them than is on the standard backing to the material. These areas do not spring back to position when pressed, resulting in several places where I have left thumb imprints. Should there be shaped foam sections between the metal/resin and the headliner? As a quick aside do the panels just pull out? Do they have clips that will break, are they resilient to pulling, or are there fixing screws/other which need removing? John Chapelhow DOC 19 : `Boeing' 0737 DOC UK Website: www.delorean.co.uk Unsubscribe: doc-uk-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ** Unless otherwise stated, all messages posted to the group are assumed public and may be printed in the club magazine ** Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/