On 27-07-2003 18:53, jchapelhow wrote: > I am waiting to borrow a proper trolley jack so > that I can remove the front wheel and get close > enough to try and clean it off. Why not just buy one? For about £10 to £15 you should be able to buy one that can lift about 2 metric tonnes. Plenty to work on a DeLorean! While you're at it, but a couple of jackstands too, especially when working under a suspended car they are MUCH safer than any hydraulic jack... Jan van de Wouw Thinking Different... Using a Mac... Living the Dream... Driving a DeLorean... DMC-12 "Dagger" since sep. 2000 100NX "Saphire" since nov. 2002 -------------------------------