Andy / List, There are lots of books, myths, rumour and legends about the whole DeLorean story. I am sure all of them have "truth" in there some where, they are often contriductory and always give a different "spin" on events. If all the books were the same then the later one's would not sell! I sometimes get a bit upset when some "youngster" picks up a book or an magazine article and then relates this "sudden insight" to every one around. Such as it was "all a British government conspiracy", etc. My advice is read ALL the books on the subject, think about what you would have done in these difficult situations and gradually form a balanced view of historical events. My personal view is that JZD was a man with great insight and talent, he eventually produced a car that was different from all the rest. He should be proud of that. I am very proud to own a piece of this history. I don't think he was a saint, I don't think he was blameless. I don't think he was or is, any worse than most of our "Leaders" in politics or industry. If we could re-run our lives again, I am sure we would all change a few things..hind-site is a wonderful thing! Live the dream...drive and enjoy the car! If I were lucky enough to meet JZD in the street, It would be one of the best days on my life! Chris P. DOC UK ( personal view) ----- Original Message ----- From: <Soma576@xxxx> To: <dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2001 11:22 PM Subject: [DML] my attitude about DeLorean (long) > Hello All, > > This last week i had the opportunity to check out the book "Hard Driving - My > Years With John DeLorean", written by William Haddad, a close executive of > JZD during the early years of pre-production and the first half of DMC, > Belfast. Previously, the only insight i had about DMC on a buisness level > was a few random websites with brief paragraphs and i also read DeLorean's > autobiography, which basically tells the ENTIRE story, more or less, from > JZD's perspective. by contrast, "Hard Driving" is the exact same story, > minus the results of John's drug bust (because the book was written before > the trials were over, and there's only a short page about his arrest), only > told by Haddad's point of view. > > let's just say that i wonder if i were better off not reading "Hard Driving". > ignorance really is bliss! The entire book tends to paint a positive view > of DeLorean the COMPANY, while painting a negative view of DeLorean the MAN. > keep in mind that Haddad fully convinced me in the book that he didn't write > the book to tear down JZD or anything he did, he just tells the facts as he > knew them, and voices his inner suspicions and fears. > > Simply, i was appalled by most of the book. Haddad describes JZD early in > his GM years (he has known JZD since he was chief engineer of Pontiac) as > brilliant, outspoken, driven, yet as always, controversial. In the beginning > years of DMC he describes John as almost manical in his procedures to gain > financial backing for DMC. In the middle and late years of DMC (81-82) he > describes John as being nearly insane about his control over the company, > resorting to wiretaps, moles in his own buisness and in the British > government, using theft (he once ordered Dick Brown and some other armed men > to break into the Bridgewater, NJ QAC center to steal 15 cars which were > owned by Bank of America. the cars in the QAC were collateral on a loan they > gave DMC, and when DMC missed a payment [when times got tough, JZD just > stopped paying his bills and focused on selling the cars no matter what], > Bank of America took over ownership of the unsold cars. during the night, > the men broke into the QAC and took the cars to JZD's Bedminster Estate. > Haddad was never able to find out what became of the cars). He describes > JZD's public statements about the 'ethical car company' as being nothing more > than a fascade for DMC to sell more cars to a naive public. in reality, > Haddad claims that DMC became everything that JZD had denounced in GM in his > book "On a Clear Day You Can See General Motors". John did not care about > the quality of his car. he decided not to re-engineer the faulty suspension > system during the pre-production because they were already behind schedule. > this later resulted in at least two recalls on the car in 1981 - probably > even more expensive to do that than it would have been to fix it before it > happened. as far as emissions and EPA regulations - DMC manipulated the > system and falsified their reports in order to pass it. again, he didn't > spend the time or the money or get it resolved. There were a hundred other > examples i could describe, but it would be best for you all to read the book > yourselves. perhaps the worst part of the whole thing was at the end when > Roy Nesseth was sent to confront Haddad about his severence package. Haddad > wanted his lawyer to read the contract first, but Roy wouldn't let him. he > wanted an immediate signature. When Haddad refused, Roy threatened that his > children would be in danger if he didn't sign the papers. interesting. > that's exactly what DeLorean was told by a federal 'agent' when JZD didn't > want to sign the papers for the Columbian cocaine deal....... Haddad never > did sign the papers. > > Now make no mistake - i love my DeLorean car and it has pretty much taken > over my entire life. it is my main hobby now for the last year since i've > owned it, and i am proud to drive it. there isn't a single time when i sit > in the seat and think, 'man, this is the best car i have ever driven!'. > that feeling is further reaffirmed by the car shows that i attend, the stares > and the cheers as i drive through the city, and every time i work on it and > accomplish something. it's history really doesn't affect my love for the > car. what's really special is that the car actually HAPPENED. > > also, two very interesting things were revealed in the book: > 1. remember last year when someone was talking about the possibility of a > DeLorean factory in Logan, Utah? how a bunch of locals in the area said they > remember seeing a stockpile of cars at a buisness just outside the area? > well this story is revealed and explained in its entirity. we all know about > the mysterious $17M that 'disappeared' from DeLorean accounting ledgers. > well it turns out that JZD used some of this money to buy land in or around > Logan, Utah for corporate expansion. his idea was to build SNOWPLOWS > (remember the DMC snowplow brochure that was sold on ebay quite a while ago?) > at this location, but he kept it secret because on the terms of his grants > and loans from the UK, he was forbidden to spend any of the money on anything > not directly involved with the release of the DMC-12. with all of the car > diversions and cover-ups, i wonder if DeLorean wasn't storing any unsold cars > here, or perhaps there were some prototypes or VIN 00000-00499? very > interesting! > > 2. this will come to be most appreciated by DanRC30 (i hope you are reading > this!!). maybe you already know the story behind your car. but i know on > the DMCNEWS page you said that your car was painted the colors for Smokey > Yunick? well check this out - on page 142: > > "... we were to meet with Bunkie Knudsen and Smokey Yunick, a > brilliant inventor who was working on a new engine that saved fuel by > recycling its own heat. Bunkie and John had formed an engine partnership > with Smokey. We were going to ride in a car fitted with the new experimental > engine." > > Then on page 144: > > "Driving with Bunkie to Smokey Yunick's, i felt like it was old times again. > John was open and friendly. When we huddled around Smokey's new engine, he > became the brilliant engineer talking about a historic breakthrough that we > would use in our car. Smokey had also worked out a simple solution to a > nagging clutch problem that our engineers and consultants had not been able > to solve. For a moment i thought it could still be fun to work for DeLorean. > This was the ambience that had attracted me to the company in the first > place". > > somewhere else in the book it mentions that JZD was planning on using the new > engine in one of his own cars, possibly a future model year of the DMC-12. i > can't find that reference now though. > > Anyway, i just wanted to share this book with the newsgroup. now i'm not > really sure who to believe. was DeLorean a man with a dream who would stop > at nothing, no matter what the cost, who he hurt, what money he spent that he > didn't have, no matter what contracts he reworded to fit his agenda, NO > MATTER WHAT THE COST, to see that his dream live? or was he the victim of > jealous executives, a victim of two governements, a victim or the media, and > a victim of a set-up? > > "Hard Driving" and "DeLorean" paint the picture with two very different kinds > of paint. > > which one do you believe? > > Andy > > Soma576@xxxx > 1982 DeLorean DMC-12 VIN#11596 > Fargo, ND 58102 > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > Before posting messages or replies, see the posting policy rules at: > www.dmcnews.com/Admin/rules.html > > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: > moderator@xxxx > > Your use of Yahoo! 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