Re: [doc] Help with non starter and frozen door.

[Daniel Shane <daniel.shane@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Ok, getting stranger now.

On mikes advice I checked the solenoid and the motor.  With 12 Volts on the
solenoid it moves out and with 12 Volts on the motor it turns, very strong
infact.  I have checked the red-white wire to the solenoid and on flicking
the key to stage 3 there is 12.33 volts.

I¹m thinking of taking it apart and having a look at it as it seems that the
switch to spin the motor when the solenoid is out is not working.

It¹s a 5 Speed manual if that makes a difference


Dan Shane
DOC 423
VIN 4754



On 7/9/04 1:27 pm, "Mike" <mike.bosworth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Well just another example of how some loading companies work :(,
> seems to me you have two problems one being the battery / starter and
> the other because its been starved of fuel at the same time  ...
> obviously once you find out the source of the starting problem ...the
> fuel prob should hopefully resolve itsself.
> 
> Im right up in hull but there are a few members around your way ...im
> sure chris p and put you in touch...????
> 
> Sorry your door cant open ....i bet thats a right pain on top of all
> this i will email you the details i have on the adjustments of the
> same tonight.... can you forward your email address to
> mike.bosworth 'at' btinternet.com    ( change the 'at' to @ )
> 
> I would get your starter/ soinoid looked at and checked over first
> and then take it from there....let us know how u get on matey...
> thomas m on the list has just had the same problem on his 'Auto' im
> assuming yours isnt an auto ???
> 
> Regards
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> --- In doc-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Daniel Shane <daniel.shane@xxxx> wrote:
>> > Hi mike,
>> > 
>> > First I¹m in Kent.
>> > 
>> > The car ran and drove to the docks in the US and James at DMCH has
> said they
>> > had no problems with it.  Looking at the car it¹s got a new
> alternator and
>> > this starter looked new-ish.
>> > 
>> > When I arrived at the Docks here the loading boys said that they
> could not
>> > get it to run on the boat and had to tow it off.  They said they
> had tried
>> > to start if for 15 Minutes with one of there booster batteries
> attached and
>> > it would not fire.  On pointing out it had no fuel in it they got
> all
>> > stroppy saying that there was no not of this.  It was on the bill of
>> > laden!!.
>> > 
>> > On adding fuel I tried to start the car.  It cranked over twice and
> then
>> > refused to turn over anymore.  I fitted my booster pack and tried
> and
>> > nothing.  Just clicked.  Tried shorting the two posts on the
> starter and
>> > noting.  Bumped the car and it fired.  Very rough sounded like it
> was
>> > missing on a few cylinders.  I let it idle and it slowly started to
> settle
>> > down.  I drove it out of the port and stalled it.
>> > 
>> > Now me and the misses alone couldn't bump it so out came the AA to
> bring it
>> > home.
>> > 
>> > I¹m going to check the amps but I¹ve had this battery and a booster
> pack on
>> > it and it nothing.
>> > 
>> > The Starter also has a faint burnt smell as well!!
>> > 
>> > Dan Shane
>> > DOC 423
>> > VIN 4754
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > On 7/9/04 12:13 pm, "Mike" <mike.bosworth@xxxx> wrote:
>> > 
>>> > > Not been funny but i woulnt be too hasty in saying your starter is
>>> > > kernackered... anyway can you get this checked over first...they
> can
>>> > > be quite expensive to replace :(
>>> > > 
>>> > > 
>>> > > Regards
>>> > > 
>>> > > Mike
>>> > > 
>>> > > --- In doc-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Daniel Shane <daniel.shane@xxxx>
> wrote:
>>>>> > >> > Right Starter is out,
>>>>> > >> > 
>>>>> > >> > there is a click from the relay and I can he the solenoid so I
>>> > > think it¹s
>>>>> > >> > the starter.
>>>>> > >> > 
>>>>> > >> > Does anybody know the cross reference for the part.  I need to
> get
>>> > > it
>>>>> > >> > running as I've got to get it into my workshop before It
> rains.  Is
>>> > > it off
>>>>> > >> > of a Volvo ???
>>>>> > >> > 
>>>>> > >> > I must say that the frame looks in excellent condition.  I've
> see
>>> > > Espirt
>>>>> > >> > chassis from W reg cars, that¹s W 1999, in worse shape.
>>>>> > >> > 
>>>>> > >> > Dan Shane
>>>>> > >> > DOC 423
>>>>> > >> > VIN 4754
>>>>> > >> > 
>>>>> > >> > 
>>>>> > >> > 
>>>>> > >> > On 7/9/04 10:10 am, "Daniel Shane" <daniel.shane@xxxx> wrote:
>>>>> > >> > 
>>>>>>> > >>> > > Ok, It¹s not the battery.  Charged it all night fitted it
> this
>>> > > morning and
>>>>>>> > >>> > > still the same.
>>>>>>> > >>> > > 
>>>>>>> > >>> > > Looks like the starter is now going to come out.  Anything
> nasty
>>> > > I should
>>>>>>> > >>> > > look out for when doing it ???
>>>>>>> > >>> > > 
>>>>>>> > >>> > > Also still cant open the drivers door.  That front latch
> wont
>>> > > open.  Getting
>>>>>>> > >>> > > a bit worried now.
>>>>>>> > >>> > > 
>>>>>>> > >>> > > Dan Shane
>>>>>>> > >>> > > DOC 423
>>>>>>> > >>> > > VIN 4754
>>>>>>> > >>> > > 
>>>>>>> > >>> > > 
>>>>>>> > >>> > > 
>>>>>>> > >>> > > On 6/9/04 6:12 pm, "Daniel Shane" <daniel.shane@xxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>> > >>> > > 
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > Help,
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> >
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > I picked up my car from Southampton toady and it was
a
>>> > > disaster.
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> >
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > The car in the states had all of the fuel drained off
> and then
>>> > > run until it
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > died of fuel starvation.  Now at this end there was
no 
> record
>>> > > of that so >>
>>>>> > >> > the
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > dock workers repeatedly tried to start it with no
fuel 
> and now
>>> > > if fails to
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > turn over on the key.  The AA are bringing it back on
> a low
>>> > > loader.  Now >>
>>>>> > >> > I¹m
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > not sure if it is a dead battery or that they have
> burned out
>>> > > the starter,
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > but if bump started it starts.
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> >
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > The second problem is the drivers door front latch
> does not
>>> > > seem to release
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > so I cant open the door. Is there any tricks to
> opening it ?
>>> > > The inside
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > panels are off and I¹ve had a fiddle with the rods
but 
> it
>>> > > still wont open.
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> >
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > Other than that 4754 looks in very good condition,
> chassis
>>> > > looks very good.
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> >
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> >
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