Re: [DML] Limit Users.

[Stephen Rice <stevedmc@xxxxxxxxx>]

Bill forgot to mention the rebate he offered me.

On 21/03/2012, content22207 <brobertson@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> *WARNING* The following words are written by Bill Robertson. If you do not
> want to read words written by Bill Robertson, stop reading this post
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> You couldn't be more wrong if you tried.
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> To the best of my knowledge I am the first person to run a 4 gauge ground
> bus from one end of the car to the other, with every single ground junction
> tied into it (I had never even heard of the ground junction behind the HVAC
> central plenum). I unwrapped nearly every inch of #2508's wiring harness to
> create the following schematic:
> http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/311857_266950950016829_100001057778755_815308_1928382016_n.jpg
> I have traveled free of charge to two owners houses to help them install
> ground buses in their own cars, one of whom lives more than 700 miles away
> from me.
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> Whatever you think about carburetion, I have made 15 conversions (13
> complete, 2 partial at owners' request) from scratch. These are in addition
> to my own cars. I don't charge a penny for my labor. I have traveled free of
> charge to Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Kentucky, Virginia, and New York, as
> well as within North Carolina, to help owners install their conversions.
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> I thought I was the first person to install Byrnes LCA's and Ed's brackets
> together, but Luke Sandel holds that distinction. Even so, I advocate the
> combination to any owner who wants his or her car to "handle like a modern
> car" (a direct quote from one of the owners who
> test drove my car at DMA FFT'11.
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> Speaking of which, I have let many people drive my car over the years.
> Brandon Barber drove it all the way to Dahlonega GA. I also drove to
> Dahlonega to deliver another owner to pick up his own car (the trip where I
> drove through the tornado). Of course neither owner was charged a single
> penny or asked for any kind of reimbursement. I drove all the way to
> Lousiana to install one Helicoil in an owner's heads (after showing him how
> they worked, he installed the other three while I watched).
>
> Other improvements I have explained in great detail for everyone's benefit:
> single piece headliner (looks much more professional than two pieces
> overlapping each other), HEI (drove to Georgia to help an owner make a
> custom set of MSD plug wires as part of his HEI upgrade), affordable dual
> exhaust (two owners have surprised me at gatherings with cars they modified
> similarly without my foreknowledge, and two other owners have sent me
> pictures), SMD LED array in the courtesy light fixtures (significantly
> brighter than hemispherical LED bulbs -- I sent an array free of charge to
> an  owner who asked, and I still owe one to a certain club president), etc.
>
> Speaking of LED's: lots of people have oohed and ahhed over my door lights,
> but to the best of my knowledge no one else has duplicated them yet:
> http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/319943_266956406682950_100001057778755_815319_1097101003_n.jpg
> http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/392407_267173789994545_100001057778755_816318_1797256303_n.jpg
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> The list goes on & on: upside down headlight brackets & buckets (so you
> don't have to dig around in the fascia to access the upper screws), solid
> black console insert
> (http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/379744_267042076674383_100001057778755_815765_65966673_n.jpg
> -- wait 'til you see it in conjunction with the carpets I am dying
> black...), helper springs for the door bellcrank and metal eyes for the
> front lock rod, low cost R134 conversions (I showed owners how to make
> adapters to use engine vacuum long before parts houses rented vacuum pumps),
> etc. Using Dave Delman's bulkhead diagrams, I have helped several owners
> identify unnecessary wires for removal. I've also helped owners identify
> wires within the car for custom lighting.
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> Speaking of which, I believe I had one of the first cars with footwell
> lighting, originally incandescent but now LED:
> http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/385223_266955840016340_100001057778755_815317_84748342_n.jpg
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> Enough, or do you need more?
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> I have traveled from New York to New Orleans, free of charge, to help owners
> with their cars. I generously share information from my experiments and
> innovations (did you see where I recently made a single piece speedometer
> cable for $7.49 -- it's still working BTW). I have never charged a single
> penny for any of my labor.
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> You couldn't be more wrong if you tried.
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> Bill Robertson
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> --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Jack Singer <jack4545@...> wrote:
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>> I have met hundreds of Delorean owners over the years. Â Many have been to
>> my house, I have hosted events and I have never run across anyone as
>> negative as you Bill or Claude. Â Everyone I met would give you the shirt
>> off of their back and a few like Rob, Evil Dan and others went far beyond
>> to help me and others get their cars running properly.
>> So instead of putting down the car, how about working in a positive
>> fashion and make this car what it could be versus complaining about it.
>> Â People are tired of hearing about your negative opinion when they are
>> working so hard to make their car right...
>> Just my two cents.
>> Jack.
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>> --- On Wed, 3/21/12, content22207 <brobertson@...> wrote:
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>> From: content22207 <brobertson@...>
>> Subject: [DML] Re: Limit Users.
>> To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Date: Wednesday, March 21, 2012, 1:18 PM
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>>       *WARNING* The following words were written by Bill Robertson. If you
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>> Time to turn in your psychology credentials. If I crave attention,
>> negative or positive, then why would my ultimate goal be banishment (ie:
>> no more attention)?
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>> I just refuse to spout dogma and orthodoxy -- that's all. JZD was not a
>> saint. He wasn't even a good businessman (every single business he was
>> involved with after leaving Chevrolet, which lost money 3 of the 4 years
>> he presided over it), failed. Consciously or not, the man also was a
>> prolific liar. The car that bears his name is not perfect. In fact, it is
>> riddled with flaws (understandably so, but it is ludicrous to claim that
>> the car is not rife from improvement). There are many ways to accomplish
>> these improvements, not just one. New areas of improvement are being found
>> all the time (for example, until last year, I used to believe your oft
>> repeated claim that the instrument cluster is grounded via the radio
>> bracket. In fact only the radio itself is grounded there -- the instrument
>> cluster is grounded behind the central HVAC plenum).
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>> It is clear that you and I have a personality clash. It would be best for
>> us to avoid face to face contact in the future. The only people who
>> benefit from us in the same room are spectators who want to see a
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