No problem...things often get "lost in translation". Rob Grady P.J. Grady Inc. (631) 589-6224 www.PJGrady.com -----Original Message----- From: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of S C Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 11:29 AM To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [DML] Re: Upgraded Front Suspension Rob, I just wanted to correct myself from the statement that I mentioned on the Fall Tour which was posted on the DML. I was wrong in saying that the way the bushings are installed at your shop split towards the back (front sway bar bushings). I took a look at my suspension and it is indeed installed the same way as the factory pictures show. This is how I have always installed them after you (Grady) showed me how to install it at your shop. My memory was just reversed in thought that night. I just wanted to clear that up. -Steve Cosgrove On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 10:22 AM, Rob Grady <rob@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > ** > > > Bill, > > I don't know who said that but they were mistaken as I normally leave > the bushings in the original factory position. > > > Rob Grady > > P.J. Grady Inc. > > From: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > Behalf Of > content22207 > Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 9:15 AM > To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [DML] Re: Upgraded Front Suspension > > This is why I left rubber bushings in the crumple extension mounts > (LCA end is polyurethane). I also turned them around so the meaty side > is towards the back (sway bar arc pushes forward into an empty space). > Horizontally it makes no difference which way the bushing is turned. > > Combined with the 45 degree shape of our sway bars (Lotus' sway bars > have a sharp 90 degree bend), I think arc of travel arguments are a Red Herring. > > An owner at FFT'11 told me Rob Grady turns his bushings around as > normal practice even on OEM suspensions, probably to try and minimize > the LCA pulling backwards during braking. > > Bill Robertson > #5939 > > --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:dmcnews%40yahoogroups.com> , > Marc > > Levy <malevy_nj@...> wrote: > > > > Thanks Mike.. > > > > So, in the Lotus application there was no obvious changes made to > > allow > for the arc travel of the ARB? The movement is absorbed by the ARB itself? > Or did they maybe use softer bushings? > > > > > > --- On Thu, 10/27/11, Michael Griese <mike.griese@...> wrote: > > > > > From: Michael Griese <mike.griese@...> > > > Subject: Re: [DML] Upgraded Front Suspension > > > To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:dmcnews%40yahoogroups.com> > > > Date: Thursday, October 27, 2011, 1:22 AM Basically Lotus modified > > > the original LCA to take on a lower A arm geometry. > > > They separated the fore/aft location of the LCA from the ARB by > > > adding the extra piece. The washer you see is not a collar but a > > > washer used to compress the bushing on the end of the ARB. The > > > reasons Lotus did this was the improvements in tire technologies > > > over the years, the increase in horsepower available from the > > > drivetrain and the improvements in braking. The improved grip of > > > performance tires was starting to overwhelm the suspension design. > > > > > > -- > > > Mike > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1411 / Virus Database: 2092/3975 - Release Date: > 10/26/11 > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnewsYahoo! Groups Links ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1411 / Virus Database: 2092/4006 - Release Date: 11/09/11 ------------------------------------ To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnewsYahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: dmcnews-digest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx dmcnews-fullfeatured@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/