How much are they? From: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Martin Gutkowski Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 8:50 AM To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [DML] Weather-stripping Just to stick my 2p in again (sorry)... I am the one who was selling reproduced original shape door seals on fleabay, with the crucial difference that they are made from tear resistant silicone rubber. Why? On my #1 car, vin #1458, I paid out a lot of money for a set of, frankly rather scabby NOS (at the time) seals from DMCH. They're now a lot cheaper and better quality remanufactured in natural rubber. However, I had nightmares with the recommended contact adhesive (the off-white stuff that you paint on both sides, count to 30 and stick together) because my doors were quite simply too tight a fit. The shut lines were/are really very good on that car - maybe as little as 3mm but not uneven suggesting a poorly fitted door. I sincerely doubt that any self-adhesive would be up to the task either - closing the door simply tore the seal off the body. I subsequently fitted yet another set of rubber seals using a polyurethane bondant (known to most as Sikaflex) and this time the adhesive was more than up to the task... except that this time around, the door simply tore the seal open after about 3 days. It was then that a friend pointed me to a company he'd seen at a trade show offering silicone extrusions. I sent them a sample of original seal, and through my (then) company, invested in getting a special die made to copy the original pattern, and a box load of seals made in "tear resistant" black silicone. It's amazing stuff, and utterly impossible to damage unless you go at it with something sharp - we even had a tug-of-war with one piece to see if two grown men could snap it... we couldn't. After quite a lot of experimentation with various adhesives (not a lot of things will adhere to silicone!), I zeroed in on the best, which comes in a handy caulking gun cartridge. I fitted a set for my own car and they've been there ever since (around 2 years, now with a new owner). I've got through two more batches since the original. I've sold many sets on ebay with 100% positive, and even some subsequent emails praising them, but as sales slowed a bit, I stopped advertising them (I have a few projects in the pipeline). But if anyone wants a set, I have several ready to ship. Martin [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnewsYahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:dmcnews-digest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx mailto:dmcnews-fullfeatured@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/