Re: [DML] Re: "The Sacrilege of the PRV " or "To Swap or Not to Swap (the Engine)"

[Martin Gutkowski <martin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Sorry I'm coming in on this thread halfway through - I've been off 
e-mail for a week or so.

I agree with Rob, but then I would given the availability of PRVs in the 
UK! I've just sorted out my funding for a set of pistons and will build 
my 3 litre turbo if it kills me.... I stalled because Renault no longer 
have any A610 or Safrane BiTurbo pistons.

I'd just like to say that figures are so easy to throw around.... 650hp? 
No way. That's just waaaay too powerful for a DeLorean. A standard 
DeLorean puts out around 90hp at the wheels. The Alpine I did the ECU on 
pushed 254hp at the wheels. I decided then and there that that kind of 
power (and torque - 360ft-lbs) was way in excess of what would be safe 
and usable in a DeLorean, without uprating the brakes and suspension.

The DeLorean was heavily based on the Alpine A310 - only 3 cars carried 
the 5 speed 369 transmission - and the other was the Renault 30, a 
front-engined executive barge. All had PRVs. So although the engine 
probably had more to do with being able to source a transaxle suitable 
for rear mounting *without* going to Porsche, the PRV is very much a 
part of the DeLorean and I like to think that a genuinely uprated PRV 
will add to the value of the car, especially as one can be fitted with 
no modifications to frame or underbody, and can be pulled back out just 
as easily.

The pain is that the *engine* is the easy bit. If going the turbo route, 
it's everything else that costs the money!

Martin

Rob Greenhaw wrote:

> FWIW, I have no interest in ever performing an engine swap. Instead I 
> have wondered how others felt about such a task, not necessarily in 
> technical terms, but more metaphorical; i.e. the engine symbollically 
> representing the core essence, or heart, of the DeLorean.
>
> Yeah, I'm a weird one. :O )
>
> To me, the perfect DeLorean is one with a modifed PRV and minor 
> interior altercations to suit my tastes. The only engine swap I would 
> be interested in would be one of the 650HP race-version PRV's. Now 
> that would be wicked!
>
> I just couldn't understand the mindset of wanting to put a different 
> engine in the D because it's a nice reliable engine when kept up, but 
> from the posts this topic has generated I see that engine swapping is 
> just another form of modification. And that is ususally for wont of 
> more power. Much like me wanting to take a Hyundai Tiburon and stuff 
> the 3.8L Azera engine under the hood!
>
> I suppose I've held a false reverence for the D since I've wanted one 
> for so long. But I will have one and she will be mine to enjoy.
>
> Thanks guys, you gave me what I wanted: different views on the purpose 
> of swappng the PRV for a different powerplant.
>
> Topic closed. :O )
>
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