You are assuming each car was simply renumbered from a 10xxx to a 15xxx.... or similar. That might have been the case for some cars and others might be hundreds off. 15002 may have been 10996 or whatever, you get the point lol. Jack Stiefel - Tampa, Fl DMC Vin 3461 & 16879 -----Original Message----- From: "Jack Singer" <jsinger@xxxxxxx> To: "dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: 9/29/2006 6:50 PM Subject: RE: [DML] Re: Black Vin plates If this is the case, please explain how I have vin 10002 and there is a vin 15002? I always thought what you said was correct, until I got this car. Jack 10002 20069 -----Original Message----- From: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:dmcnews%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:dmcnews%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of James Espey Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 6:55 PM To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:dmcnews%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: [DML] Re: Black Vin plates Cars from VIN 1000 or so on, IIRC, have VIN plates the same color as the dash. The significance comes on the 15XXX and 16XXX VIN's that have dash VIN plates with no pop-rivets, they are just glued on. This is because all the 15XXX and 16XXX VIN's are really 10XXX and 11XXX VIN's (1982 models) that were given new, later 1983 model VIN numbers so they would not appear to be a year old already by the time that got here to the states to sell. The 20XXX VIN's were the cars that were partially completed when the factory closed and Consolidate went in and finished them. Their VIN plates are pop-riveted on. James --- In dmcnews@yahoogroups <mailto:dmcnews%40yahoogroups.com> .com, "Jack Stiefel" <jack@...> wrote: > > I know this has been covered before but I thought I would just bother everyone again. > > My 83 has a black vin plate... What was the story about these? Anything different or did it represent a KAPAC car? > > Jack Stiefel - Tampa, Fl > DMC Vin 3461 & 16879 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:dmcnews-digest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx mailto:dmcnews-fullfeatured@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/