Hi guys and many thanks to Martin and Elvis for posting prompt replies to my questions. Just a little trivia you may or may not knot know it was also one of thr reason that convinced me to buy a DMC 12. The stainless steel came from South Africa, the plant is called Columbus and its near Witbank and Midleburg towns. They have the only other DMC that I know is in the country, the use it for shows and exhibitions etc. Just a useless bit of information. Cheers Jim To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/