On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 04:18:50 -0000, videobob11 wrote: > We have all seen that clip on cup holder for sale, .... [snip] > I have an idea but I am not sure if it will fly. [snip] > My idea is to remove the top of the console and ashtray, > and custom build a new one. The idea is to either drill > into the actual frame with a hole saw and recess the cup > holder down into it with a matching base. I wouldn't do this... Sawing into the backbone of the frame is a BAD idea and just cutting into the fiberglass body under the console would probably not give you enough clearance AND it will let a LOT of road noise through into the cabin, ask Martin G.! Building one on top of the console wouldn't work either, at least not for me; the holder would be in the way when shifting gears. I stumbled upon this one last night when browsing eBay for some other stuff. I like the way it folds flat against the side instead of dangling out from the shifter console... <http://www.9xauto.com/images/pack1.jpg> <http://www.9xauto.com/images/pack2.jpg> <http://www.9xauto.com/images/pack3.jpg> It's meant for Porsches, but IMHO with a little work the bracket can easily be modified to fit a DeLorean, like next to the stereo on the passenger side. Can be bought from <http://www.9xauto.com> or currently on eBay: <http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=33675&ite m=2441985870> Good luck, JAN van de Wouw Thinking Different... Using a Mac... Living the Dream... Driving a DeLorean... #05141 "Dagger" since Sept. 2000 --------------------------------