In defense of $10,000 DeLoreans: Dollar figures in these messages may scare off potential owners with limited funds. A fully functional DeLo CAN be had for less, but must be aware what money is buying (no stars in eyes): Any/Some/Most/All of following: -Dinged or dented stainless -Faded or peeling fascias -Chipped wheels -Parachuting headliners -Cracked dashboard and/or binnacle -Damaged seats -Dead Speedo or other instrumentation -No Zillas or other relay compartment improvements -Dead door electricals -Factory radiator & hoses -Dead A/C List goes on... Fall Foliage purchases push my total investment perilously close to $9,000. And the car looks it. But it IS reliable, safe, and enjoyable. Of course my DeLo pales in comparison to higher dollar models, but I harbor no illusions about that. It is the best I can do on my budget. Am proud to participate in group DeLo events. Do not participate in judged contests. Bill Robertson #5939