door opener actuators

["Michael Quinto" <mquinto@xxxx>]

Darryl,
Clearly you and I are not on the same page about the location of where we mount are devices. I was making a bad joke about the location.
At any time I never said anything bad about or discouraged anyone from buying your kits. I actually encouraged for anyone to ask you questions on your discovery.
But what I don't like is the misinformation you posted about the Solenoids being 5 to 6 pounds. I know you never said they would not work but you did hint that they were to heavy.
According to autolocs web page it say the Solenoids I have weigh 2 pounds. I have not had any problems with failing Solenoids. I understand you want to sell your product. I'm not trying to stop anyone from purchasing your product.
But, because I mention that there are other options and places to buy from you get bent out of shape.
Let these fine folks on this list decide what they want. Remember I'm not selling door openers, you are. And there are about 50 other sites out there that sell both actuators and solenoid shaved door handle kits for far less money. If they choose to go that direction, then they'll have to spend the time to figure out how to install the kit. 

And I never jerry rigged my doors. I was never happy with the VPA's Solenoids. I thought there products were inferior. But I NEVER had a problem with them. I paid $100.00 for the kit from Jeg's magazine. It came with a four channel, two remotes and two Solenoids. The reason why I changed them out was like Tim Taylor from Tooltime, I wanted more power.


This is my last word on this subject. I apologize to the list and moderators for this verbal intrusion.
If you would like to calm down then I'll talk to you off list, if not, then lets let it be. 

Regards,
Mike

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Darryl Tinnerstet 
To: mquinto@xxxx 
Cc: DMCNews 
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 3:58 PM
Subject: RE: door opener actuators


Sure, Mike, I'd be glad to tell everyone the correct way to install door openers - just send $199 plus $5 postage and I'll make it very clear.

Seriously, I can't help but wonder why someone who has jerry-rigged maybe one set, then had to go back and re-do it because it didn't work right, would be taking me to task on this when I have successfully sold and installed dozens of kits over the last 10-12 years WITHOUT A SINGLE FAILURE OR COMPLAINT. If you truly think your idea is better then go for it, but please don't tell me my method is inferior, or won't work. As one satisfied customer pointed out it is simple, compact, and reliable. You stated "Your door handles inner and outer are the easiest places to pull from. Unfortunately you can't put your actuator or solenoid there." Really? Says who? That happens to be exactly the correct place to pull from. "I had tapped into the upper armature to open the doors with the my old 15's with the 50's I had to relocate to the bottom part of the armature." What armature? The only armature in the door is inside of the window motor.

My actuators, which are fairly common, are rated at 12-15lbs of pull. When I get my newly acquired #2323 car home I plan to test the required pull weight of the door opening linkage and put this issue to bed. I have never said that heavy solenoids won't work because they will, but they are not necessary or reliable. I'm always open to ideas for improvements in my products, but unless you have a proven, reliable, and inexpensive solution I think I will stick with one that is.

Sorry if I'm a little testier than usual but I just got out of surgery yesterday and am still on some potent drugs. I'll be back to my normal mellow state in a few days....

Darryl Tinnerstet
Specialty Automotive
McCleary, WA
www.delorean-parts.com



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