hey All, I found out how to remove the old Fir Tree snaps. I thought it was a big process where you have to take then out from the other side of the panel, but I called Rob Grady, and he just said to grab them with pliers and twist them out on an angle and sure enough just like he said and it all worked. I was able to get the first 5 out easily but the last one is always a pain, but I managed to get it. Next time I order something from PJ Grady I am gonna throw those fir tree snaps in with the order. Thanks to everyone who offered their help. Happy Holidays everyone. Later, Nick VIN#1852.....tear-down and rebuild restoration