> From: Marc A Levy [mailto:malevy@xxxx] > While on the DOD... When the directory started it was available for > download by anyone on the DOD list. Will it ever be again? > > I am not clear on how or why the DOD has changed over the past year or > so. It went from a free on-line publication for the participants only, > to a list that can be viewed by anyone (a invasion of privacy) and a $5 > charge for the complete printed copy (who is making money on the > distribution of my personal information?) Frankly, this is not what I > signed up for. I see there is still a "DMC-News Members Only Lounge", > but is this still active and up to date? (I dont remember > the Password) > > I would like to see the DOD return to how it was presented. > The option of a printed copy for a small copy/mail charge should be made > available, but the "Listed Owners" page should be modified to include less > information. As keeper of the DeLorean Owners Directory, let me address these issues one at a time: The DOD was first available through a passworded area on the DMCnews website (The Lounge). James E. didn't have the time to keep the DOD updated so it and The Lounge fell by the wayside. We are working on getting the DOD on-line again. We can't do it the way James did it because we're on a totally different web server and the programs don't work there. We're right in the middle of testing out new programs. You may see links to secure access on the DMCnews website, but it's not ready. We're charging $5 for a printed copy of the DOD because we made 100 copies in time for the DOA St. Louis Expo but we only sold a dozen copies. It cost $350 to make those copies. I'll let you do the math. With tax on the printing and mailing costs, $5 was a nice round number. So far we've sold 7 more copies and that will probably be about it. We'll cover the loss in other ways (sales of the t-shirts etc.) and only make the next version available in an electronic format. We MAY have another printed version for the Cleveland show, but only if it's paid for with advertising. It's been a long road to get the DOD back into shape, and there's still a long way to go. Yes, we know many of the entries are out of date and some that people have sent in are not there. I get questions all the time from people who say they've sent their entry 3 times. I look through the old email and never find them listed. Updates to the DOD should be on a quarterly basis. The next version should come out in January. That will be the one I'll want to post to the net. I'm really sorry if the name list on the DOD page is a problem. Don't even get me started about 'invasion of privacy' issues. Some of us discussed what to include and we didn't think there would be a problem as long as nothing but city and state info was included. Opinions everyone?? Remember guys, 'we' (the moderators and other people working behind the scenes at DMCnews) are just individuals on the DML, like you. Try not to beat on us too hard. We just want to keep the DML running. We make this stuff up as we go along. None of us are experts in moderation or security or any of this. It's great when it works, we're sorry when it doesn't. ================================================================ Ken Montgomery Sacramento, CA VIN #10911 'OUTTIME' http://www.jps.net/arkham/delorean01.htm mailto:kenm@xxxx Northern California DeLorean Motor Club http://members.tripod.com/ncdmc/ Keeper of the DeLorean Owners Directory http://www.dmcnews.com mailto:directory@xxxx ================================================================